Moore for Kirk+

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Christian Kirk, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, 2020 2nd
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DJ Moore
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Moore for Kirk+

Postby DLF_TylerK » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:28 am

For team in sig:

Give: Christian Kirk, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, 2020 2nd
Get: DJ Moore

I think it's a decent move to consolidate a bit at WR and that 2nd is from the league champ in 2018, so probably on the later side. Also, I'm thin at RB, so Moore could be my 2nd flex starter whereas before it was either Guice or Davis, both of whom have major concerns for 2019. Thoughts?
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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby cougarplayer20 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:34 am

All of these receivers I like a lot. But I’m going with the package. Even though Ari brought in several WRs this offseason I think Kirk is the most talented of the bunch and will be there #1. He could end up being a better WR than Moore as well. JJAW is a guy that probably won’t produce this year but come 2020 it will be wheels up for the guy in a very good offense.

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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:35 am

Seems a bit step for me. I don't value Moore and Kirk that far off. Moore certainly has more value but not sure the gap is multiple pieces. Kirk + the pick seems like enough. I'm sure I will get lite up for that thinking though.

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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby DLF_TylerK » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:42 am

Surprised to hear these takes actually. I thought the gap between Moore and Kirk was massive based on ADP and rankings I've seen. Also, a trade that previously occurred for Moore a week ago in the same league was for a package I'd prefer to what I gave up in this deal, so I thought I was getting a discount.
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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:45 am

jkid2 wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:42 am Surprised to hear these takes actually. I thought the gap between Moore and Kirk was massive based on ADP and rankings I've seen. Also, a trade that previously occurred for Moore a week ago in the same league was for a package I'd prefer to what I gave up in this deal, so I thought I was getting a discount.
I think Moore's value is being artificially inflated because of so much offseason hype. I agree that at best Moore >= Kirk for me, so I definitely would want the side with two free 2nds.
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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby EAGLES » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:48 am

I’d rather have the package. You’re devaluing Arcega-Whiteside quite a bit here

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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:51 am

I'll take Moore here. Three quarters do not equal a dollar. Moore is the best of the bunch. Moore > Kirk. The rest of the package are a couple of unknown dart throws.
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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:52 am

EAGLES wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:48 am I’d rather have the package. You’re devaluing Arcega-Whiteside quite a bit here
Says the EAGLES fan :lol:

But I agree that I'd rather have the package.
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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby cougarplayer20 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:13 am

FantasyFoosball wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:51 am I'll take Moore here. Three quarters do not equal a dollar. Moore is the best of the bunch. Moore > Kirk. The rest of the package are a couple of unknown dart throws.
You sound as if Moore has solidified himself as a stud WR but he finished 36th at the position last year and had fewer PPG than Kirk. Where I agree Moore>Kirk but the gap is not that much.

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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby EAGLES » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:33 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:52 am
EAGLES wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:48 am I’d rather have the package. You’re devaluing Arcega-Whiteside quite a bit here
Says the EAGLES fan :lol:

But I agree that I'd rather have the package.
LoL it’s my unbiased opinion

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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby thomasscheeks » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:47 am

I would take Moore here. I like Kirk but I think Moore has a higher ceiling. And I like Whiteside as well but he's a sit-and-wait type guy. You need immediate production.

It's an even trade, but I would pay that to get Moore for your team.
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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby jodscott213 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:51 am

Go get samuel. He puts up similar numbers as Moore and is a lot cheaper may even Be damn free.
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WR: OBJ(4@8.70), Adams(4@7.50) DJ Moore(5@1.60), Pettis(3@.50), Deebo(4@.80) Campbell(4@1.20), JJAW(3@.50) Keesean Johnson(3@.5) Sutton(3@.5)
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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby Lumps » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:51 am

I like JJAW too much to go with Moore here. I think the fantasy community is FAR too low on him.
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Re: Moore for Kirk+

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Wed Jun 26, 2019 9:57 am

Moore for me
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