Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

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Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby Spongehack » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:11 am

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RB - E. Elliot, J. Mixon, I. Smith, B. Love
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby killer_of_giants » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:12 am

barkley side, better than zeke, younger, and i like darnold.

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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:15 am

Barkley side. Take the younger RB with similar if not a better skill set.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby abloom » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:20 am

Zeke/Wentz for me. Zeke and Barkley are pretty similar to me. I'd rather Barkley due to Zeke's boneheadedness, but Zeke has the better team situation imo.

Wentz is a few levels above Darnold. I think Darnold will improve a lot this year, but Wentz has had two injury shortened seasons. I think if he can stay healthy he's a top QB.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:28 am

Barkley >= Zeke
Wentz >> Darnold

Don't overpay for a slight RB upgrade, if that. While Barkley is younger and has fewer off-field concerns, it's very possible that Zeke could even out-produce him in fantasy in the next couple of seasons. And while I like Darnold, Wentz is a proven MVP-level QB when healthy. I'd need at least an early 1st added to the Darnold side to consider this trade in superflex.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby AZCardsFan » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:33 am

the value gap between Zeke and Barkley doesn’t not close the gap between Wentz and Darnold.

Gimme the Wentz side.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:49 am

zeke wentz but i prob wouldnt be doing this deal (if im zeke wentz owner im not worried enough about zeke to downgrade from wentz to darnold and if im barkley darnold owner i prob dont care enough about upgrading from darnold to wentz, and his recent health issues, to give up barkely and take on the headache of zeke every offseason. )
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby Spongehack » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:01 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:49 am
zeke wentz but i prob wouldnt be doing this deal (if im zeke wentz owner im not worried enough about zeke to downgrade from wentz to darnold and if im barkley darnold owner i prob dont care enough about upgrading from darnold to wentz, and his recent health issues, to give up barkely and take on the headache of zeke every offseason. )
Thanks everyone who chimed in so far. These are my exact thoughts. Any other opinions?
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QB - C. Wentz, K. Murray, M. Stafford, R. Tannehill
RB - E. Elliot, J. Mixon, I. Smith, B. Love
WR - C. Ridley, C. Kirk, N. Harry, DK Metcalf, M. Brown, M. Valdes-Scantling, G. Allison, K. Harmon, D. Parker, K. Cole, P. Dorsett, A. Humphries, D. Moore, C. Moore, J. Hurd, P. Richardson, J. Matthews
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby Spongehack » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:16 am

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QB - C. Wentz, K. Murray, M. Stafford, R. Tannehill
RB - E. Elliot, J. Mixon, I. Smith, B. Love
WR - C. Ridley, C. Kirk, N. Harry, DK Metcalf, M. Brown, M. Valdes-Scantling, G. Allison, K. Harmon, D. Parker, K. Cole, P. Dorsett, A. Humphries, D. Moore, C. Moore, J. Hurd, P. Richardson, J. Matthews
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby Bubba90 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:16 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:28 am
Barkley >= Zeke
Wentz >> Darnold

Don't overpay for a slight RB upgrade, if that. While Barkley is younger and has fewer off-field concerns, it's very possible that Zeke could even out-produce him in fantasy in the next couple of seasons. And while I like Darnold, Wentz is a proven MVP-level QB when healthy. I'd need at least an early 1st added to the Darnold side to consider this trade in superflex.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby perkinsrooster » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:41 pm

I just don't trust Darnold yet.

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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby LMS123 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:43 pm

I would go Barkley and Darnold, because barkley’s Barkley and I do have concerns with Wentz’s health and like Darnold’s upside
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby bigbuck22 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:51 pm

Zeke/Wentz

The difference between Zeke and Barkley is not enough to close the gap between Wentz and Darnold. In fact, Elliott could be the best asset in this deal any given year. Wentz was the likely MVP two years ago before the injury. His ceiling is high. Superflex makes this an easy decision for me.

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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby DoggieOG » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:11 pm

bigbuck22 wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:51 pm
Zeke/Wentz

The difference between Zeke and Barkley is not enough to close the gap between Wentz and Darnold. In fact, Elliott could be the best asset in this deal any given year. Wentz was the likely MVP two years ago before the injury. His ceiling is high. Superflex makes this an easy decision for me.
I agree with pretty much everything above ^

Zeke/Wentz side given it's a Super Flex league

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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold

Postby Howardzac88 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:17 am

This question is a three step process to answer.

1. Productivity-all expected to be productive to an extent. Darnold has most to prove but has most likely to be most productive included with him. (Barkley) zeke and wentz are comparable overall. zeke already 3 years of top of the league carries. Probably top per game every year. Wentz should be high end QB1 if healthy all yea Saquan losing Beckham coverage and possibly rookie QB situation this season is slightly a knock on his situation. Darnold I expect to put up similar number from last year. Maybe couple more TDs

2. Age- zeke 3 years of tread on them wheels, saquan 1. Wentz already suspect of career threatening injuries last year. The relief was the massive contract extension. Obviously they are comfortable with him. Darnold was top 5 pick and super young.

3. Durability. Only wentz has shown a durability issue. Take it with a grain of salt on that extension though. He obviously is in line to be healthy and ready to roll. Bet he runs out of bounds more and gives himself up before taking hits more now.
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