Huge Kyler trade please help

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Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby Brownies4life » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:35 pm

For team 2 was offered this. All opinions appreciated!

Give: Kyler Murray, Derius Guice, 2020 2nd (late projected)

Receive: Daniel Jones, Rashaad Penny, 2020 1st, 2020 1st (both mid to late projected)
Superflex, Full PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 3flex 1 Sflx
QB: Dak, Wentz, Daniel Jones, Nick Mullens
RB: Royce Freeman, Penny, Carson, M. Brown, Foreman,
WR: Evans, Pettis, Metcalf, Harry, Mclaurin, Harmon, D.J. Chark, Agholor, Quinn, Gabriel, MVS, Justin Watson, Kirkwood, Cobb
TE: Fant, RSJ, Dan Arnold, Gerald Everett
Picks 2020: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
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Superflex, PPR, 12 team, 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 flex 1 Sflx
QB: Brady, Kyler Murray, Flacco
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, AP, Chris Warren, Bruce Anderson,
WR: Evans, Adams, AJ Green, Miller, Allison, DeMarcus Robinson, Patrick, Kirkwood, Hurd
TE: OJ Howard, Dissly, Waller
2020 picks: 2, 3, 4

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:43 pm

Not crazy about the deal. If you are not high on Murray or Guice however, this would be a solid deal. I feel Murray's value could go through the roof in SF.

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby Phaded » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:46 pm

I think this is about even.
Value wise, I would take it.

If you are looking to compete this year, though - I think it hurts your chances as it leaves Flacco as your QB2.

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby McCafsteez » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:47 pm

I would take the deal
The Other Woman Dynasty League - 12 Team PPR (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex)
QB: Herbert, Lance, Stafford
RB: Bijan, Hall, Cook, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Adams, Hill, Hopkins, Robinson
TE: Waller, Engram
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You’re in this for Life - 12 Team 0.5 PPR
(QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, TE, 3 Flex)

QB: Fields, Young, Richardson, Smith
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, A. Jones
WR: Metcalf, JSN, Addison, Q. Johnston, Mingo, Rice
TE: Kincaid, Mayer, Gesicki
2024 Picks - (x3) 1sts
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Dynasty Addiction - 12 Team PPR /SF (QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, SF)
QB: Lawrence, Fields
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Etienne, Walker
WR: AJ Brown, Godwin, Bateman
TE: Kittle

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby ChefHerbie » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:53 pm

No, I’d hold Kyler.
Team 1 - 10 Team PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX

QBs: Wentz, Big Ben, Darnold, Murray, Bridgewater
RBs: Chubb, Mack, L. Miller, Monty, Foreman, Henderson, Ballage, Armstead, R. Anderson
WRs: OBJ, K. Allen, Cooks, ARob, Z. Jones, Chark, K. White, D. Robinson, McLaurin
TE: Howard, Njoku, Reed

Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4

Team 2 - 10 Team PPR SF - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1SF

QBs: Mayfield, Watson, Jimmy GQ, Grier
RBs: Barkley, Sony, Lewis, D. Thompson, Love
WRs: Thomas, OBJ, AB, Kupp, ARob, C. Ridley, Alshon, MVS, Chark, Gordon, McLaurin, Quinn
TE: Burton, Walker

Picks:
2020: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3
2021: 1, 3
2022: 1-3

Team 3 - 10 Team PPR - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX

QBs: Watson, Wilson, Mayfield, Murray, Grier
RBs: Ballage, Henderson, Hunt, Hill, Armstead, Anderson, Williams, Thompson, Crockett
WRs: Nuk, Evans, Cooper, Cooks, Samuel, Butler, Chark, Quinn, Robinson, D. Johnson, Morgan Jr.
TEs: Fant, Dissly, Goedert

Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:08 pm

Absolutely not in superflex your giving up the 2 best assets in the deal
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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby bdynomite » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:00 pm

So...a huge downgrade at QB and a huge downgrade at RB for a mid to late first and a 2 to 1 pick bump next year? I have no idea how people are advising you to take this. In a superflex, Kyler was probably your 1.01 this year, looks awesome and Guice is easily the next best piece. Decline.

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby akpipeline23 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:29 am

No way I do this - Kyler and Guice are worth much more than that.
12-tm Superflex, 6pt Passing TDs, TE 1.5ppr
Roster:
QBs: Murray, Burrow, Tua, Finley, Luck, Fromm, Mullens
RBs: Guice, Dam Harris, MDavis, Gaskin, Warren, Calais
WRs: Diggs, Ridley, Lamb, Jefferson, CSamuel, Hollywood, Slayton, Fuller, DRobinson, Duvernay, Reynolds, Humphries, Tyrell Williams, Pettis, Renfrow, KeeSean Johnson, Gordon
TEs: Fant, Griffin, Harrison Bryant, BHopkins, LWillson

Picks: 2021 1/1/1/2/2/2/3/3/4/4, 2022 1/1/2/2/3/4

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby jwint7910 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:49 am

Pass
Dynasty League: Est. 2012 2018 CHAMPION
10 Team PPR, All tds 6 points, 27 roster
Start: 1-QB, 2-4RB, 2-4WR, 1-3TE, 1-K, 1-DEF

QB BigBen, Dak
RB Barkley, Cook, Mixon, Chubb, D Williams, R Anderson, B Anderson
WR Nuk, AB, M Thomas, Cooper, M Williams, Godwin, Gallup, McLaurin, Cain, D Moore
TE Engram, Njoku, Knox
K Zuerlein
DEF Vikings, Chargers

2020:2,2,2,2,3,3-5
2021:1,2,2,5

Dynasty League: Est. 2017
12 Team PPR Superflex, 1/4 point per carry, TE bonus, All tds 6 points, 25 roster
Start: 1-2QB, 2-4RB, 3-5WR, 1-2TE, 1-K, 1-DEF

QB Rodgers, Watson, Luck, Murray
RB Mixon, Gordon, Chubb, Guice, Harris
WR JuJu, Cooks, Golladay, C Davis, Godwin, Fuller, Miller, Washington, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Quinn, C Moore
TE Engram, OJ Howard
K Zuerlein
DEF Denver

2019: 3.10,4.05
2020: 1,1,1,1,2,2,4-5
2021: 1-5

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:45 am

Murray alone >= the other side. Remove Guice and the 2nd and it's much closer.
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby HughHoney » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:27 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:45 am Murray alone >= the other side. Remove Guice and the 2nd and it's much closer.
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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:54 am

Easy no for me.
Kyler => Jones + late 2020 1st
Guice = Penny + late 20 1st
2nd > nothing
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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby surgebird2 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:39 am

I'd remove the 2nd and take it. But I'd probably take it even with the 2nd as not a huge Guice fan and think Kyler is way overvalued right now.

Penny >= Guice + 2nd
Jones + 2 1sts >= Kyler
Team 1
12 Team PPR TEP Superflex, 30 Man Roster (No 2024 Picks)
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE Flex, 1 Superflex
QB: Herbert, Hurts, Purdy, Murray, O'Connell, Lock, Wentz, Mullens (IR)
RB: Taylor, Gibbs, Jav. Williams, Spears, R. Dowdle, K. Mitchell, Rivers (IR), Brooks (IR)
WR: Diggs, Aiyuk, D. Smith, M. Brown, Jam. Williams, D. Douglas, E. Moore, Mims, Toney, Tillman, Tucker
TE: Pitts, Ferguson, Njoku, Musgrave, Bellinger

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby Spongehack » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:08 am

Easy no. Take out Guice and it's closer.
12 Team (2014 Champ, 2016 2nd, 2021 Champ) 1.0 PPR, 1.5 TE, Superflex, Start 9, 1-2 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-3 TE

QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox

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Re: Huge Kyler trade please help

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:57 am

hell yes i love that deal for your team in a 1 qb league this is penny and 2 firsts for giving up quice and swapping top 6 nfl draft pick QBs (one anointed the next big thing and one anointed the next big flop but nobody knows jack sh*t)
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp


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