OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Obj or Tyreek Hill +

OBJ+2019 1.11
23
58%
Tyreek Hill, Cooper Kupp, Darius Guice, 2020 1st
17
43%
 
Total votes: 40

OhSnapItsAnt
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 209
Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:51 am

OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby OhSnapItsAnt » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:00 pm

What do you guys think? Thank you
12 Team PPR 1-QB 2-RB 3-WR 3-Flex 1-TE 1-K 1-Def

QB- Patrick Mahomes

RB- Derrick Henry, Kareem Hunt, Duke Johnson, Jaylen Samuels, Chase Edmonds, Rashaad Penny, Tony Pollard, Justin Jackson, Ty Johnson

WR- OBJ, Keenan Allen, DJ Moore, Julian Edelman, Andy Isabella, Miles Boykin, Tre’quan Smith, Preston Williams

TE- George Kittle, Mark Andrews, Ian Thomas, Chris Herndon

K- Justin Tucker
Def- Cowboys for now

Finfansteve
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 243
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:37 pm

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby Finfansteve » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:12 pm

Depending on where you think that 2020 first round pick would be I think you have to take that. Even if it’s a late pick in the first in 2020 I think I’d do that. It doesn’t look like your team is a serious contender this year so I’d trade obj for that haul and speed up your build of that team. I think you’ll be happy you did next year as long as hill doesn’t implode and do something stupid in the next year or so

Online
FantasyFreak
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 11025
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:03 am

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:47 pm

OBJ side easily. I want something concrete for OBJ, and Hill is not that at this point. Guice is a question mark, Kupp will most likely struggle the first half of this year based on the injury, and who knows about that pick.
DLF Early Birds Special/ Year 1 (16 Team SuperFlex 25 man roster Start 10)

Record: 20-5

Wentz, Stafford. Driskel
Chubb, Cook, Carson, Breida, Ekeler, Penny, James White, Sproles
Evans, Sutton, Woods, Agholor, Sanu, Higgins, D Robinson, T Taylor
Kittle, Olsen, McDonald, Ian Thomas, Clay

User avatar
Gator Sens
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 13898
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:17 am

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:00 pm

If you think Hill returns as a top 5 wr this year or next, I would take that deal. Kupp looked the part of a top 20 wr pre injury and the 2020 1st will gain serious value too. Nice package here.
You're in this for Life
12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

ckrumm24
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 104
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:58 am

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby ckrumm24 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:28 am

OBJ side, the other side of that trade is too risky.
12 team Salary Cap with contracts (4 year max but Franchise/Transition/Restricted FA Tags) 40 man roster + 7 taxi spots / balanced IDP
Can start multiple roster variations (i.e. 3 RB, 2 TE, 2WR all the way to 6 WR) - Basically mirrors real NFL.

<Needs Updated>

JOHNNY_COCKTAIL
Starter
Starter
Posts: 732
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2018 10:24 am

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:38 am

But if Hill plays (which I think he will) this trade is going to be EXTREMELY lopsided in favor of the package give me the package
12 Team PPR (PPR- QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, FLEX, D, K)
QB- Winston
RB- Barkely, Cook, AP
WR- K. Allen, Hill, Diggs, Golladay, DJ Moore, Shepard, Enunwa, Callaway, Chark
TE- Kelce, Gesicki

10 Team .5 PPR. QB Premium. Added Big Play Points (QB, RB, WR, TE, 3 FLEX (non qb), D, K)
QB- Brees, Mayfield, Prescott
RB- Barkley, Cook, Dixon, I. Smith
WR- OBJ, D. Adams, Evans, B. Cooks, Kupp, C. Davis, Godwin, Boyd, Fuller, J. Gordon, Gallup
TE: Mike Gesicki, Vance McDonald

12 Team. Superflex. TE Premium. PPR. (QB, SF, 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, TE)
QB: Wilson, Ryan, Eli, Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley, Mixon, Ekelar, I. Smith, D. Lewis, Gio
WR: Hill, Evans, KA, Metcalf, M. Brown, Whiteside, Agholor, D. Robinson
TE: McDonald, Reed, Hurst, Everett

12 team. PPR. Superflex.
(1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 3 Flex, TE)
QB: Luck, Wilson, Lock, Fitzpatrick
RB: Joe Mixon, Josh Jacobs, D. Lewis, J. Richard
WR: Mike Evans, Hill, Cooks, M.Brown, Gallup, Ross, Richardson
TE: Kelce, Everett, Smith

tom14cat14
Captain
Captain
Posts: 790
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:46 am

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby tom14cat14 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:17 am

Do you like to gamble? OBJ side for me because the other side is too risky. But that side has potential to be the better side. Hill COULD equal OBJ in the future and the 2020 1st most likely will be higher then 1.11 in a better draft class. Then you would have gotten Guice and Kupp for free.

However I think the most likely outcome is Hill will screw up again and find his way out of the league, Guice, who knows. Kupp is pretty old for his experience level and is injured so might take time to return to what he was. I guess for me, I just do not want to buy Hill unless it is super cheap.
Yahoo- Arm Chair Generals (12 team .5 Per reception QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE 1 Flex, Def, K)
QB: Watson Allen
RB: Chubb, Michel, Lindsay, Howard, Coleman, Foreman
WR: OBJ, Evans, Golladay, Boyd, Godwin, M. Williams, Watkins, Meredith, Pettis, Moore, Doctson, St. Brown
TE: Ertz, Howard,
K: Anyone Def: Chi
Picks: Extra 2019 1st

Bad Robts III Dynasty- (12 TEAM PPR- QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE)
StarScream
ALL PRO DYNASTY LEAGUE V2.0 Dynasty (12 TEAM PPR- 6pt passing td PPR- QB, 2-5 RB, 3-6 WR, 1-4 TE)
Tom14cat14
Marvel Dynasty (14 TEAM PPR- QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE)
IronMan
Edge of your Seat Dynasty (12 TEAM PPR- Best Ball- return league too many to list- QB, 2-5 RB, 3-6 WR, 1-4 TE)
We Were Soilders
Space Opera (12 TEAM PPR- Best Ball- too many to list- 1-2 QB, 2-5 RB, 3-6 WR, 1-4 TE)
Lord Vader

User avatar
thomasscheeks
Ring of Fame
Ring of Fame
Posts: 3872
Joined: Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:30 am

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby thomasscheeks » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:37 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:47 pm
OBJ side easily. I want something concrete for OBJ, and Hill is not that at this point. Guice is a question mark, Kupp will most likely struggle the first half of this year based on the injury, and who knows about that pick.
Agreed
10 Man IDP, .5 ppr, Big Play Bonus, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 24 Keepers (12 off - 12 IDP)
QB: Brady, Wentz, Darnold
RB: D Freeman, Jacobs, Drake, Barber, Harris
WR: Thomas, Julio, Juju, Dede, P Williams, Hamilton, Cain
TE: Kittle, Olsen, Fant, Thomas
DT: Cox, Atkins, Tillery
DL: Bosa, Ingram, Ansah, Houston, Josh Allen
LB: Kwon, Watt, Cunningham, White
DB: Collins, Reid, Reshad Jones, Edmunds, McDougald
D/ST: Jags

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE *Rebuilding*
QB: Winston, Trubisky, Haskins
RB: Dion, Richard, Singletary
WR: Evans, Cooper, Shepard, Kirk, P Williams, Z Jones, Hamilton, Quinn, Diontae Johnson
TE: Henry, Herndon, Gesicki
D/ST: Texans
5 2020 1st's

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Matty Ice, Wentz
RB: Ingram, Jacobs, Howard, Sanders, Ekeler, J Jackson
WR: Nuk, Evans, Keenan, Dede, Goodwin, Isabella
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Rudolph, Witten
D/ST: Texans

User avatar
Cowboysfan33
Hall of Fame
Hall of Fame
Posts: 4814
Joined: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:18 pm

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:53 am

OBJ side for me. I don’t trust Hill at all, long-term.

Smoking Guns
Starter
Starter
Posts: 528
Joined: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:09 pm

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby Smoking Guns » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:03 am

OBJ side for me- I traded Hill and J.Howard for OBJ before the start of last season and caught a lot of grief for it but feeling good about it now. I also agree with the statement about the ?'s surrounding Guice and how soon Kupp will be back to being Kupp.

User avatar
SHIZZLE
Captain
Captain
Posts: 973
Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:21 pm

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby SHIZZLE » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:54 am

a lot of unknowns opposite of OBJ side, OBJ is a very rare player now with a good QB. Hill may or may not play and will regress, Kupp will regress and Guice was a top pick last year but only played in part of the 1st preseason game so nobody knows how good he will be. I would keep OBJ and your 1st
12 team PPR
QB- Rivers, Winston, Lamar
WR- A. Brown, K. Allen, OBJ, Ridley, Ross, Tre'Quan Smith, Campbell, Trey Quinn, Callaway, Preston Williams
RB- McCaffrey, Chubb, Sanders, Penny, Duke, Cohen, Foreman, Richard, Adams, Darwin
TE- Henry, Herndon, Burton, Sternberger
K- Vinatieri
DST- Houston, Rams

2020 picks - 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 5th

1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 FLEX (WR/RB/TE), K, DST -------1 pt. - PPR

User avatar
repkllrs
MVP
MVP
Posts: 2798
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:32 pm
Location: Oregon

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby repkllrs » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:32 pm

That is the package I would sell for. You don’t have to trust Tyreek long term, just long enough for him to play a game or two, then sell.
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt" Abe Lincoln

User avatar
DoggieOG
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 440
Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:45 pm

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby DoggieOG » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:58 pm

I think it's easy for some to say the OBJ side at first glance. However, have you guys taken a look at the state of his team? He's ridiculously thin at RB and other than OBJ, he's only got Boyd and Edelman as start-worthy WR's. I get it's risky, but he has too many needs on that team to turn down a possible team-altering trade like this. I understand Guice is coming off an ACL injury (albeit complications arose) but he's got some great upside and could end up a starting RB on the OP's team. Kupp is also start-worthy WR2 and once Hill is back on the field (most likely this year I think) then he'll have a WR1 who can at least come close to matching OBJ's production. So, with just those players he would have potentially 3 starters on a very thin roster. On top of that, I would gladly take the 2020 1st that's coming with those players over the 1.11 this year. In all he could end up with 2 starting RB and 2 starting WR if he takes the deal. Just my 2 cents, but if you're not contending then you should be rebuilding.. and keeping OBJ on that team won't do him any good.

HughHoney
MVP
MVP
Posts: 2539
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:55 pm

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby HughHoney » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:31 am

Comes down to how you feel about risk. Higher floor with OBJ side. Much higher ceiling with the package. I’d have too hard a time trusting Hill to stay on the field to pull the trigger I think.
12 Team, 24-man Roster, 3-man TS, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 DEF

QB: Wilson, Luck, Finley
RB: Da Johnson, Kamara, Gordon, J White, Hines, Samuels, Gio, Love, C Edmonds
WR: OBJ, Cooper, Kupp, Watkins, Pettis, Coutee, Deebo Samuel, Diontae Johnson, A Miller, K Harmon, Funchess, John Brown, D Thomas, J Meyers
TE: Kittle, Graham, Waller
DEF: KCC

User avatar
AresGodOWar2
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 174
Joined: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:01 pm

Re: OBJ or Tyreek Hill +

Postby AresGodOWar2 » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:45 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:47 pm
OBJ side easily. I want something concrete for OBJ, and Hill is not that at this point. Guice is a question mark, Kupp will most likely struggle the first half of this year based on the injury, and who knows about that pick.
Yes yes yes I agree %100 , You don't move a asset like OBJ for a bunch of question marks and add a 1st on top of it.
MainName- memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=25873

(TEAM 5) 12 Team, 6 PTD
QB-P.Mahomes, J.Winston
RB-M.Gordon, L.Fournette, K.Drake, A.Ekeler
WR-T.Hill, K.Golladay, T.Williams, G.Tate, G.Allison
TE-G.Kittle

(TEAM 6) 14 Team SF, .2 PPC, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 1.75 PPR
QB-C.Newton, J.Goff, B.Roethlisberger
RB-L.Bell, J.Mixon, M.Gordon, R.Penny, G.Bernard, R.Anderson
WR-O.Beckham, B.Cooks, S.Watkins, W.Fuller, A.Brown, D.Parker, D.Moncrief
TE-J.Reed

(TEAM 7) 12 Team, +%50 Rushing
QB-D.Watson, J.Garoppolo
RB-C.McCaffery, L.Bell, K.Drake, R.Penny, K.Ballage, G.Edwards, TY.Montgomery
WR-B.Cooks, T.Boyd, J.Crowder, R.Cobb
TE-D.Waller, J.Reed, J.Graham

(TEAM 8) 12 Team, .5 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, R.Tannehill
RB-J.Mixon, L.Fournette, P.Lindsay, Ty.Johnson
WR-M.Evans, K.Golladay, T.Williams, G.Allison, R.Cobb
TE-G.Kittle, J.Graham


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: MSN [Bot] and 6 guests