David Johnson Trade
David Johnson Trade
Would you do this trade for my team in Signature 1
Team 1 - Champions - '13, '15, '16', 17, '18
12 Team, Superflex, 0.5PPR,
QB - Wilson, Rodgers, Mayfield, Rudolph, Love
RB - Zeke, Kamara, Cook, Vaughn, Edmunds, J Jackson, Mattison
WR - Adams, Cooper, Pittman, Shepherd, Williams, Watkins, Bateman, Mims
TE - Kittle, Higbee,
DST - Titans, Jaguars, Rams
Team 2 - Champions '16, '19
12 Team Superflex, 0.5PPR,
QB - Rodgers, Ryan, Brady,
RB - McCaffrey, CEH, Ekeler, Henderson, Davis, Edmonds, McKissic
WR - Hopkins, Ridley, Allen, Waddle, Jones, Cephus,
TE - Kittle, OJ Howard, Higbee,
DST - Seahawks, Steeler, Texans
Team 3 - Champions '18, '19, '20
12 Team Superflex, 1PPR,
QB - Herbert, Newton, Ryan, Taylor
RB - Barkley, CMC, Kamara, JT, Pollard, Edmonds,
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Woods,, Juju, Bateman, Edwards, Harry
TE - Kelce, Hockenson, Smith
DST - Bills, Titans
12 Team, Superflex, 0.5PPR,
QB - Wilson, Rodgers, Mayfield, Rudolph, Love
RB - Zeke, Kamara, Cook, Vaughn, Edmunds, J Jackson, Mattison
WR - Adams, Cooper, Pittman, Shepherd, Williams, Watkins, Bateman, Mims
TE - Kittle, Higbee,
DST - Titans, Jaguars, Rams
Team 2 - Champions '16, '19
12 Team Superflex, 0.5PPR,
QB - Rodgers, Ryan, Brady,
RB - McCaffrey, CEH, Ekeler, Henderson, Davis, Edmonds, McKissic
WR - Hopkins, Ridley, Allen, Waddle, Jones, Cephus,
TE - Kittle, OJ Howard, Higbee,
DST - Seahawks, Steeler, Texans
Team 3 - Champions '18, '19, '20
12 Team Superflex, 1PPR,
QB - Herbert, Newton, Ryan, Taylor
RB - Barkley, CMC, Kamara, JT, Pollard, Edmonds,
WR - Adams, Hopkins, Woods,, Juju, Bateman, Edwards, Harry
TE - Kelce, Hockenson, Smith
DST - Bills, Titans
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Re: David Johnson Trade
Kittle and Mack and it's not close. If this is in the your in box you should be accepting ASAP.
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Re: David Johnson Trade
Kittle and Mack
12 Team 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 5IDP
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11
16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson
QB: Rodgers, Love
RB: Achane, Gibson, Dillon, Sanders
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, G Wilson, Rice, JSN, Burks
TE: Goedert, Likely, Musgraves
2024 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 1.11
16 Team 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Stafford, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson
Re: David Johnson Trade
DJ value still being propped up by 2016, he's not getting close to that ever again and going to disappoint his owners. Now is the time to sell.
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Re: David Johnson Trade
Can't imagine anyone not drunk would offer this
22-man, 12-team, 1 pt-PPR; Start 1-2RB; 3-4 WR; 1-2 TE
TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard
TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard
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Re: David Johnson Trade
Take it quick!
Team 1:
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku
10 team SF, .5 ppr
1-QB 1-SF 3-WR 2-RB 1-TE 1-Flex
QB: Allen, Burrow, Goff, Aidan OConnel
RB: ETN, K Walker, Swift, D Pierce, Monty, Herbert, McLaughlin
WR: Deebo, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Dell, Higgins, Jeudy, E Moore, Michael Wilson, Tutu
TE: Kinkaid, Schultz, Njoku
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Re: David Johnson Trade
Great deal for your team. Nice value and the upgrade from Hooper to Kittle is huge. Plus you keep Hooper for depth.
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Re: David Johnson Trade
I'm surprised no one is on the DJ side. Kittle alone is not worth DJ, and Mack has looked REALLY good at times, but I think is far from a sure thing. 2 concussions in 2 years and 2 other injuries (labrum and hamstring, which he injured and reinjured). If he can't stay healthy he will be replaced.
I think DJ has a bounce back year, and his value actually increases this year.
I also think Kittle does significantly worse than last year because targets will be spread out more.
I can see the upside being on the Kittle and Mack side, but I don't see this trade being that lopsided.
I think DJ has a bounce back year, and his value actually increases this year.
I also think Kittle does significantly worse than last year because targets will be spread out more.
I can see the upside being on the Kittle and Mack side, but I don't see this trade being that lopsided.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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Re: David Johnson Trade
Kittle is an elite TE, and in his prime. Mack does have injury concerns, but he just turned 23, and has been an explosive playmaker since entering the league. His team firmly believes in him, right down to the owner. DJ may bounce back, but I have serious doubts in that system, running out of shotgun almost exclusively, with a rookie QB and WR's, and a below average OL. Unless DJ destroys it this year, I think his value will decline. He will be 28 THIS year. I think just due to age, his value will at best stay the same. There is a narrative to be written for the other side, for sure, but I think the safer play, and the value play, is the Mack and Kittle side. Think about the other side of it, if DJ got hurt for any time. This trade would look awful.jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:05 am I'm surprised no one is on the DJ side. Kittle alone is not worth DJ, and Mack has looked REALLY good at times, but I think is far from a sure thing. 2 concussions in 2 years and 2 other injuries (labrum and hamstring, which he injured and reinjured). If he can't stay healthy he will be replaced.
I think DJ has a bounce back year, and his value actually increases this year.
I also think Kittle does significantly worse than last year because targets will be spread out more.
I can see the upside being on the Kittle and Mack side, but I don't see this trade being that lopsided.
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Re: David Johnson Trade
I get the Mack and Kittle argument as well. I was just surprised it was so lopsided.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:12 amKittle is an elite TE, and in his prime. Mack does have injury concerns, but he just turned 23, and has been an explosive playmaker since entering the league. His team firmly believes in him, right down to the owner. DJ may bounce back, but I have serious doubts in that system, running out of shotgun almost exclusively, with a rookie QB and WR's, and a below average OL. Unless DJ destroys it this year, I think his value will decline. He will be 28 THIS year. I think just due to age, his value will at best stay the same. There is a narrative to be written for the other side, for sure, but I think the safer play, and the value play, is the Mack and Kittle side.jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:05 am I'm surprised no one is on the DJ side. Kittle alone is not worth DJ, and Mack has looked REALLY good at times, but I think is far from a sure thing. 2 concussions in 2 years and 2 other injuries (labrum and hamstring, which he injured and reinjured). If he can't stay healthy he will be replaced.
I think DJ has a bounce back year, and his value actually increases this year.
I also think Kittle does significantly worse than last year because targets will be spread out more.
I can see the upside being on the Kittle and Mack side, but I don't see this trade being that lopsided.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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Re: David Johnson Trade
I’d gladly send DJ for that package
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Re: David Johnson Trade
I would take Mack and Kittle all day. Kittle is top 3 TE, even if he regresses as some believe he was in perfect storm last year I think he remains top 5 TE. Mack is very young and in a great offense. I think DJ is a stud and will be a stud for the next 3-4 years.
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2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy, Fields
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, D. Johnson, JSN, Doubs, Meyers, Thomas, Toney
TE: Andrews, Likely, Dulcic
2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 1, 2, 2
2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, D. Adams, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely
2024: 1.01, 1.06, 1.08, 2.09
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3
2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Goff, Watson, Cousins, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo
2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.06, 2.07, 2.10, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3
2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy, Fields
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, D. Johnson, JSN, Doubs, Meyers, Thomas, Toney
TE: Andrews, Likely, Dulcic
2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 1, 2, 2
2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, D. Adams, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely
2024: 1.01, 1.06, 1.08, 2.09
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3
2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Goff, Watson, Cousins, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo
2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.06, 2.07, 2.10, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3
Re: David Johnson Trade
DJ going to catch a lot of passes. With that said you get two starters and Mack is going to shine. Take the deal. OH and I have DJ
QB: Mayfield, Bridgewater, Fitzpatrick
RB:David Johnson, Mixon, Chubb, James Robinson, Mattison, K Vaughn
WR: AJG, K Allen, D Adams, JuJu, C Godwin, D Slayton, S Miller
TE: Engram, Kittle
K: Succup
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TE: Engram, Kittle
K: Succup
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Re: David Johnson Trade
I can see why the OP is posing the question. If this were an easy accept, he wouldn't have posed it.
Key part of his question is would we do this trade for his team in Signature 1
My answer is NO. I would keep DJ over trading him for Mack and Kittle
My reasons being:
1st and foremost the OP only has Zeke and Damien Williams at RB other than David Johnson. I would much rather role with Zeke, DJ and Damien Williams (who is not a guaranteed long term starter) over Zeke, Williams and Mack (who is also not a guaranteed long term starter).
2nd. reason being the OP has Austin Hooper who isn't a slouch at TE. He will either be the 2nd or 3rd option in ATL this year again.
3rd reason being Kittle will not get as much attention with all three pass catching RB's and Pettis, Deebo and Goodwin all on the same field. Although I do agree Kittle is "very good" I also think he received a lot of extra looks and opportunity last year due to injuries. I'm just not ready to crown him a top 3 TE yet, until I see him retain his market share of catches with all the other players on the filed.
Key part of his question is would we do this trade for his team in Signature 1
My answer is NO. I would keep DJ over trading him for Mack and Kittle
My reasons being:
1st and foremost the OP only has Zeke and Damien Williams at RB other than David Johnson. I would much rather role with Zeke, DJ and Damien Williams (who is not a guaranteed long term starter) over Zeke, Williams and Mack (who is also not a guaranteed long term starter).
2nd. reason being the OP has Austin Hooper who isn't a slouch at TE. He will either be the 2nd or 3rd option in ATL this year again.
3rd reason being Kittle will not get as much attention with all three pass catching RB's and Pettis, Deebo and Goodwin all on the same field. Although I do agree Kittle is "very good" I also think he received a lot of extra looks and opportunity last year due to injuries. I'm just not ready to crown him a top 3 TE yet, until I see him retain his market share of catches with all the other players on the filed.
FFPC $2500 #6 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Zeke, Spears, Mattison, Justice Hill
WR: Kupp, Tyreek, Diggs, DSmith, MWilliams
TE: Andrews, Ferguson
FFPC $2500 #5 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5 (2021 Champ)
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Ekeler, Monty, Achane,
WR: Kupp, Pittman, Amari, Ridley, Lockett
TE: Andrews, Ferguson
FFPC $750 #46 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5
QB: Mahomes
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Saquon, Kyren, Javonte
WR: Tyreek, Kupp, Waddle, Wan'Dale
TE: Hock, LaPorta
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Zeke, Spears, Mattison, Justice Hill
WR: Kupp, Tyreek, Diggs, DSmith, MWilliams
TE: Andrews, Ferguson
FFPC $2500 #5 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5 (2021 Champ)
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Ekeler, Monty, Achane,
WR: Kupp, Pittman, Amari, Ridley, Lockett
TE: Andrews, Ferguson
FFPC $750 #46 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5
QB: Mahomes
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Saquon, Kyren, Javonte
WR: Tyreek, Kupp, Waddle, Wan'Dale
TE: Hock, LaPorta
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