Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

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Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby esulek80 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:40 pm

I've been looking for RB help and the guy that has Kamara said he would trade me him for Mahomes. Based on my roster and league details below should I make that trade?

My only concern is if I deal Mahomes I will be down to just 1 current starting QB in Wentz who has a history of injuries. Thoughts?

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, K and D – 12 team ½ pt PPR league – 24 man roster and 4 round rookie draft

I have 5 picks in the upcoming 2019 rookie draft (1.12, 2.12, 3.10, 3.12, and 4.12)

My roster is:.
QB: Mahomes, Wentz, Bridgewater
RB: Hunt, Carson, Drake, Ballage, Samuels, Thompson, McGuire, Bernard, Adams
WR: Julio, Juju, Evans, Cooper, Sutton, Kirk, Coutee
TE: Njoku, Thomas, Eifert
K: Bailey, McManus
D: Jacksonville, Dallas
2017 - Champions!
2018 - Champions!!
2021 - Champions!!!

Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, and 1 DST – 12 team .5 PPR league – 24 man active roster + 2 IR

Roster:
QB: Mahomes, Stroud
RB: Bijan, Javonte Williams, James Cook, Charbonnet, Brian Robinson, Kyren Williams, Dobbins, Keaton Mitchell, Israel Abanikanda
WR: Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Higgins, Diontae Johnson, Dotson, Marquise Brown, Quentin Johnston, Sutton
TE: Hockenson, Freiermuth, Ferguson
K: Aubrey
D: Pittsburgh, Denver

Draft Picks:
2024: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2025: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th
2026: 1st / 2nd / 3rd / 4th

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:45 pm

1QB? Absolutely take it

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:58 pm

In a 1 QB this is an easy accept. Nice deal. Kamara is a top 5 dynasty back.

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby hockeyBjj » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:19 pm

1 qb? Definitely

Go buy some mediocre top 15 qb for a third
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:25 pm

Definitely do it. Makes you a much stronger team.

I agree that Wentz injuries is a risk though. Work on a quality backup QB via trade.
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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby bvale13 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:57 pm

Accept quickly and sleep like a baby.

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby repkllrs » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:28 pm

Run don’t walk to the accept button.
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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby ChefHerbie » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:08 pm

Agree wit the above.
Team 1 - 10 Team PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX

QBs: Wentz, Big Ben, Darnold, Murray, Bridgewater
RBs: Chubb, Mack, L. Miller, Monty, Foreman, Henderson, Ballage, Armstead, R. Anderson
WRs: OBJ, K. Allen, Cooks, ARob, Z. Jones, Chark, K. White, D. Robinson, McLaurin
TE: Howard, Njoku, Reed

Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4

Team 2 - 10 Team PPR SF - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1SF

QBs: Mayfield, Watson, Jimmy GQ, Grier
RBs: Barkley, Sony, Lewis, D. Thompson, Love
WRs: Thomas, OBJ, AB, Kupp, ARob, C. Ridley, Alshon, MVS, Chark, Gordon, McLaurin, Quinn
TE: Burton, Walker

Picks:
2020: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3
2021: 1, 3
2022: 1-3

Team 3 - 10 Team PPR - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX

QBs: Watson, Wilson, Mayfield, Murray, Grier
RBs: Ballage, Henderson, Hunt, Hill, Armstead, Anderson, Williams, Thompson, Crockett
WRs: Nuk, Evans, Cooper, Cooks, Samuel, Butler, Chark, Quinn, Robinson, D. Johnson, Morgan Jr.
TEs: Fant, Dissly, Goedert

Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:35 pm

You can get a Rivers/Big Ben type for cheap to supplement Wentz. I love Mahommes and think people undervalue his fantasy value, but would easily take Kamara for him straight up in a 1 QB league
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:39 pm

The Mahomes fever is to real in 1 QB leagues I had a league of vets draft a couple months ago (maybe not some apparently) where Mahomes went 1.1 craziness
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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:43 pm

jcc6fd wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:35 pm You can get a Rivers/Big Ben type for cheap to supplement Wentz. I love Mahommes and think people undervalue his fantasy value, but would easily take Kamara for him straight up in a 1 QB league
How are people "undervaluing" Mahomes' fantasy value? He is the practically unanimous #1 overall QB by quite a large margin. If anything he's being over valued, because he almost certainly just had the best fantasy season he will ever have in his career. His production numbers wise can only go down from here.

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:22 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:43 pm
jcc6fd wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:35 pm You can get a Rivers/Big Ben type for cheap to supplement Wentz. I love Mahommes and think people undervalue his fantasy value, but would easily take Kamara for him straight up in a 1 QB league
How are people "undervaluing" Mahomes' fantasy value? He is the practically unanimous #1 overall QB by quite a large margin. If anything he's being over valued, because he almost certainly just had the best fantasy season he will ever have in his career. His production numbers wise can only go down from here.
1. Disagree that his production can only go down. He won the MVP award in essentially his rookie season. You don't think he can't improve?
2. My comment was not in reference to his ranking amongst dynasty QBs where he is rightfully the QB1, but in reference to his relative fantasy value to other positions. He'll play at an elite level longer than any RB/WR/TE in the league right now and he does give a positional advantage at a position most would have historically said doesn't have gaps in production (i.e. draft a QB late methodology). I advocated for trading for Kamara, which I think is obvious here, but was pointing out that this isn't as simple as trading a QB1 for an RB1 in the traditional sense.
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:32 pm

1 QB that's a snap accept. You've got Wentz. Get Kamara. Grab a QB like Flacco if they are on the WW for your bye week, but don't sweat that. Kamara by a mile in 1 QB.
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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:34 pm

No I don't think he can improve on 5,000 yards and 50 TDs.

He is rightfully the #1 QB and I expect him to be elite going forward, but he's going to be "regular elite" 4,500 yards and 30-35 TDs. He's not going to have a top 3 statistical season ever every year of his career.

So yes while he will improve as a player, he will not improve his stat line, which is all that matters for us in the fantasy world.

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Re: Trade Mahomes for Kamara?

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:20 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:34 pm No I don't think he can improve on 5,000 yards and 50 TDs.

He is rightfully the #1 QB and I expect him to be elite going forward, but he's going to be "regular elite" 4,500 yards and 30-35 TDs. He's not going to have a top 3 statistical season ever every year of his career.

So yes while he will improve as a player, he will not improve his stat line, which is all that matters for us in the fantasy world.
I think we would agree that he won't have 5000 yards and 50 TD every year. I think it's silly to guarantee he will never top it considering he did it at 23. Not sure why anyone would want to argue that.

I did just look up his startup ADP; 25 overall, which is higher than I expected, but I think that's indicative of fair value for him given that he outscored the QB2 in 4pt TD leagues by 5PPG. He outscored the average of the top 12 QBs by 6 point and the top 24 QBs by 8.5 PPG. For contrast he outscored the 2017 QB1 by 5 PPG as well. That's a bigger advantage than we're used to in 1QB leagues, which was my bigger point. Appears the community has appropriately adjusted though.
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave


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