OTC - Deebo or Hardman
OTC - Deebo or Hardman
16 team, PPR league, who do you prefer between Deebo Samuel or Mecole Hardman?
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1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 β
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 β
14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB β Kyler Murray
RB β Christian McCaffrey
WR β Calvin Ridley | Michael Thomas
TE β
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 β
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 β
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB β Deshaun Watson (or Tom Brady)
RB β Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR β DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE β Darren Waller
2021 Picks β 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1
Joe Day's Dynasty|Keeper|Redraft Leagues
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 β
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 β
14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB β Kyler Murray
RB β Christian McCaffrey
WR β Calvin Ridley | Michael Thomas
TE β
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 β
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 β
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB β Deshaun Watson (or Tom Brady)
RB β Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR β DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE β Darren Waller
2021 Picks β 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Deebo easily for me, Hardmans value is being artificially inflated by the landing spot and it's looking more and more likely that Hill's absence will not be permanent.
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Deebo.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson
2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None
Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells
2021 - 1.05, 3.05, 4.05
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB
QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Carson, Drake, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn, Boswell
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Hendrickson, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller, Wilson
2021 - 1.06, 1.09, 2.04, 4.05
2022 - None
Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Jackson, Booker, Dallas, Snell, Royce Freeman, Armstead
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells
2021 - 1.05, 3.05, 4.05
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Deebo
10 Team salary: No PPR, 4pt passing td, 6pt rushing/receiving, 1 pt every 100 yds
Lineup: basically like a NFL lineup
1qb
5 skill positions
Rb: Up to 3 but dont have to start any
Wr: up to 5 but dont have to do any
Te: up to 3 but dont have to do any
Salary Cap: 47.50
QB: Wentz(3@.50) Jimmy G(4@.50), Josh Allen(5@1)
RB: Barkley(6@3.00),James Connor(2@2.70) Mixon(5@1.60), Fournette(5@2.80), Guice(6@2.40), Montgomery(5@2.60),Justice Hill(3@1.00) Alexander Mattinson(3@.5)
WR: OBJ(4@8.70), Adams(4@7.50) DJ Moore(5@1.60), Pettis(3@.50), Deebo(4@.80) Campbell(4@1.20), JJAW(3@.50) Keesean Johnson(3@.5) Sutton(3@.5)
TE: Ertz(1@.5) Will Dissly(3@1.00)
K: Gould, Prater
Def: Browns, Pats
2 round rookie draft
2020
3 firsts, 1 Second
2021
2 firsts, 1 2nd
Lineup: basically like a NFL lineup
1qb
5 skill positions
Rb: Up to 3 but dont have to start any
Wr: up to 5 but dont have to do any
Te: up to 3 but dont have to do any
Salary Cap: 47.50
QB: Wentz(3@.50) Jimmy G(4@.50), Josh Allen(5@1)
RB: Barkley(6@3.00),James Connor(2@2.70) Mixon(5@1.60), Fournette(5@2.80), Guice(6@2.40), Montgomery(5@2.60),Justice Hill(3@1.00) Alexander Mattinson(3@.5)
WR: OBJ(4@8.70), Adams(4@7.50) DJ Moore(5@1.60), Pettis(3@.50), Deebo(4@.80) Campbell(4@1.20), JJAW(3@.50) Keesean Johnson(3@.5) Sutton(3@.5)
TE: Ertz(1@.5) Will Dissly(3@1.00)
K: Gould, Prater
Def: Browns, Pats
2 round rookie draft
2020
3 firsts, 1 Second
2021
2 firsts, 1 2nd
Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
I just traded in one of my drafts to pick Deebo with pick #18, but Hardman went right before that at #17.
I'm in 18 leagues and Deebo usually always goes higher then Hardman, and I personally would go with Deebo also.
I'm not sure if I'm missing something but I'm not even sure how these guys fell so low. JJAW, and Butler also available so I may trade a 2020 second to get another pick here.
I'm in 18 leagues and Deebo usually always goes higher then Hardman, and I personally would go with Deebo also.
I'm not sure if I'm missing something but I'm not even sure how these guys fell so low. JJAW, and Butler also available so I may trade a 2020 second to get another pick here.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Deebo - better player and should have a bigger role on his team
Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Deebo.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Taylor, Jacobs, Ekeler, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed, Love
AJB, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Sutton, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1.02, 1.05, 1.11, 3.02, 3.11, 4.11, 5.11
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Ito, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love, Guice
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, McLaurin, Thielen, Jeudy, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Eifert, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 2.09, 3.11, 4.04
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Taylor, Jacobs, Ekeler, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed, Love
AJB, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Sutton, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1.02, 1.05, 1.11, 3.02, 3.11, 4.11, 5.11
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Ito, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love, Guice
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, McLaurin, Thielen, Jeudy, Cooks, Berrios, Byrd, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Eifert, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 2.09, 3.11, 4.04
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Samuel, but it's very close. I'd go with Hardman if you own Hill.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Deebo--very easily. Not sure why this is a question
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Goin with Hardman due to the ceiling. Deebo is a nice prospect like any other early 2nd round pick probably a 20% chance of ever being consistanly fantasy relevant. Chiefs, Mahomes, Reid I'm taking all that I think they could incorporate them both in the offense and they've spent an awful lot of time talking about him this offeseason so I'll be the 1 guy in the thread who says Hardman.
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Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
Deebo, easy choice for me. Wait, are you in my league. Scratch that.
10 Team, 1 pt PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB: Gurley, Barkley, Elliott, Edmonds,
WR: M. Thomas, JuJu, Godwin, Adams, Whiteside, P. Williams
TE: Henry,Waller, Hockinson
2020 1.5,6,8,10 firsts
QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB: Gurley, Barkley, Elliott, Edmonds,
WR: M. Thomas, JuJu, Godwin, Adams, Whiteside, P. Williams
TE: Henry,Waller, Hockinson
2020 1.5,6,8,10 firsts
Re: OTC - Deebo or Hardman
FJU?The.Big.Spank wrote: βFri Jun 14, 2019 11:34 amDeebo, easy choice for me. Wait, are you in my league. Scratch that.
BERLIN BOMBERS
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 β
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 β
14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB β Kyler Murray
RB β Christian McCaffrey
WR β Calvin Ridley | Michael Thomas
TE β
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 β
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 β
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB β Deshaun Watson (or Tom Brady)
RB β Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR β DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE β Darren Waller
2021 Picks β 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1
Joe Day's Dynasty|Keeper|Redraft Leagues
1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 β
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 β
14 teams | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB β Kyler Murray
RB β Christian McCaffrey
WR β Calvin Ridley | Michael Thomas
TE β
ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTODONS
2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 β
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 β
12 teams | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
Projected 2021 Keepers
QB β Deshaun Watson (or Tom Brady)
RB β Derrick Henry | Dalvin Cook | J.K. Dobbins | Alexander Mattison
WR β DeAndre Hopkins | Davante Adams | Calvin Ridley | Diontae Johnson
TE β Darren Waller
2021 Picks β 1.7 | 3.10 | 4.1 | 5.10 | 6.1 | 7.12 | 8.1 | 9.4 | 9.12 | 10.1
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