For team in sig. Should I make the move? What needs to be added to either side? Who do you guys like better now/longterm?
Sony's knee's just worry me. I know Kerryon isn't exactly injury proof, but at least he is almost 3 years younger.
Thanks for your input.
Sony for Kerryon
Sony for Kerryon
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Re: Sony for Kerryon
This one is gonna be league/owner dependent imo. I have them very close together in terms of value. You’re probably right that Sony carries more long-term injury risk, but I think he’s a better bet for a back end RB1 season this year. All this is to say, it’s close enough that it comes down to preference for me. If you want KJ, send out the offer straight up.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon
Tough call here. I think Michel could put up big numbers based on TD's only for the next couple years but he also plays in a very frustrating team usage system week in and week out. His knee is a concern but all RB's are banged up at some point. I like Kerryon as more of an all threat back but I don't like the what the coaching staff is saying about limiting his touches already. Could all just be noise however. I personally don't think there is a wrong answer here and this could simply be preference.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon
Short term-win now, contending team-S.Michel
Long term-non-contender or rebuild-K.Johnson
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Re: Sony for Kerryon
Kinda what I'm thinking. Prob just feel better if Sony was my rb3 instead of my rb2.Gator Sens wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:52 pm Tough call here. I think Michel could put up big numbers based on TD's only for the next couple years but he also plays in a very frustrating team usage system week in and week out. His knee is a concern but all RB's are banged up at some point. I like Kerryon as more of an all threat back but I don't like the what the coaching staff is saying about limiting his touches already. Could all just be noise however. I personally don't think there is a wrong answer here and this could simply be preference.
24 Team (2x copy) .5 ppr 30 man roster
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1K, 1DST
QB - Hurts, Wilson, Winston
RB - J. Williams, Akers, Michel, McFarland, Da. Williams, J. Patterson, Ty Johnson, K. Hill, Bolden, Mostert
WR - D. Johnson, Ridley, Jeudy, Aiyuk, Gallup, Pittman, J. Meyers, Juju, Cephus, Q. Watkins
TE - Hockensen, L. Thomas, Engram, Trautman
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1K, 1DST
QB - Hurts, Wilson, Winston
RB - J. Williams, Akers, Michel, McFarland, Da. Williams, J. Patterson, Ty Johnson, K. Hill, Bolden, Mostert
WR - D. Johnson, Ridley, Jeudy, Aiyuk, Gallup, Pittman, J. Meyers, Juju, Cephus, Q. Watkins
TE - Hockensen, L. Thomas, Engram, Trautman
Re: Sony for Kerryon
Kerryon for me, Showed better than Michel and at this point we can't be certain Michel will have the usage he did last season.
KJ increased usage and Michel decreased usage means I'd rather have the RB that catches passes and was hyper efficient last season.
KJ increased usage and Michel decreased usage means I'd rather have the RB that catches passes and was hyper efficient last season.
Re: Sony for Kerryon
I think a lot of panic about Sony now is probably warranted. But as I've said in an earlier thread it's a better offence with more touchdowns, which you'd hope the majority go to Sony. I alos hope if he gets to do more off season work his role in the passing game increases.
Having a scope is a worry, but as he had a meniscal clean up last year perhaps it's more a precautionary/ clean up. Remember how quickly Mixon came back last year.
Both I think will finish fairly close. But Sony's value is plummetting. If he falls to 5th Rd in may redraft league I'll be gobbling him up
Having a scope is a worry, but as he had a meniscal clean up last year perhaps it's more a precautionary/ clean up. Remember how quickly Mixon came back last year.
Both I think will finish fairly close. But Sony's value is plummetting. If he falls to 5th Rd in may redraft league I'll be gobbling him up
Re: Sony for Kerryon
X2Cowboysfan33 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:21 pm Short term-win now, contending team-S.Michel
Long term-non-contender or rebuild-K.Johnson
Remember, Sony’s knee won’t get better but will have to be managed throughout his career. Another scope this year already, regardless if it’s precautionary is a concern. With each surgery, regardless of how minor brings risks over course of time. The Pats don’t draft Harris if they don’t have long term concerns. But if you’re a contender this year I’d take the risk of Sony. And if season gets away from you, then possibly look to move him for better long term outlook.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon
I agree with this. I'd want at least a top 12 pick in this draft on top of Sony to move Johnson.Titans95 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:25 pm Kerryon for me, Showed better than Michel and at this point we can't be certain Michel will have the usage he did last season.
KJ increased usage and Michel decreased usage means I'd rather have the RB that catches passes and was hyper efficient last season.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon
I'd have to add a 1st to Sony to get KJ in my leagues. Then again, I can't move Sony for anyone within 25 APD spots of him in either direction.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon
Then he's a solid hold, I think the worry is valid but I also think it may be overblown. Michel was in talks as the 2nd best RB in a super stacked rookie class, that talent is still there and he was also considered the highest upside best pass catcher outside of Barkley so he could easily see and increased usage there.
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