Sony for Kerryon

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Sony for Kerryon

Postby Eazy-E » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:41 pm

For team in sig. Should I make the move? What needs to be added to either side? Who do you guys like better now/longterm?

Sony's knee's just worry me. I know Kerryon isn't exactly injury proof, but at least he is almost 3 years younger.

Thanks for your input.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby blemly » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:47 pm

This one is gonna be league/owner dependent imo. I have them very close together in terms of value. You’re probably right that Sony carries more long-term injury risk, but I think he’s a better bet for a back end RB1 season this year. All this is to say, it’s close enough that it comes down to preference for me. If you want KJ, send out the offer straight up.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:52 pm

Tough call here. I think Michel could put up big numbers based on TD's only for the next couple years but he also plays in a very frustrating team usage system week in and week out. His knee is a concern but all RB's are banged up at some point. I like Kerryon as more of an all threat back but I don't like the what the coaching staff is saying about limiting his touches already. Could all just be noise however. I personally don't think there is a wrong answer here and this could simply be preference.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:21 pm

Short term-win now, contending team-S.Michel
Long term-non-contender or rebuild-K.Johnson

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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby Eazy-E » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:21 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:52 pm
Tough call here. I think Michel could put up big numbers based on TD's only for the next couple years but he also plays in a very frustrating team usage system week in and week out. His knee is a concern but all RB's are banged up at some point. I like Kerryon as more of an all threat back but I don't like the what the coaching staff is saying about limiting his touches already. Could all just be noise however. I personally don't think there is a wrong answer here and this could simply be preference.
Kinda what I'm thinking. Prob just feel better if Sony was my rb3 instead of my rb2.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby Titans95 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:25 pm

Kerryon for me, Showed better than Michel and at this point we can't be certain Michel will have the usage he did last season.

KJ increased usage and Michel decreased usage means I'd rather have the RB that catches passes and was hyper efficient last season.

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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby megager » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:21 am

I think a lot of panic about Sony now is probably warranted. But as I've said in an earlier thread it's a better offence with more touchdowns, which you'd hope the majority go to Sony. I alos hope if he gets to do more off season work his role in the passing game increases.

Having a scope is a worry, but as he had a meniscal clean up last year perhaps it's more a precautionary/ clean up. Remember how quickly Mixon came back last year.

Both I think will finish fairly close. But Sony's value is plummetting. If he falls to 5th Rd in may redraft league I'll be gobbling him up
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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby Bubba90 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:31 am

Cowboysfan33 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:21 pm
Short term-win now, contending team-S.Michel
Long term-non-contender or rebuild-K.Johnson
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Remember, Sony’s knee won’t get better but will have to be managed throughout his career. Another scope this year already, regardless if it’s precautionary is a concern. With each surgery, regardless of how minor brings risks over course of time. The Pats don’t draft Harris if they don’t have long term concerns. But if you’re a contender this year I’d take the risk of Sony. And if season gets away from you, then possibly look to move him for better long term outlook.

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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:47 am

Titans95 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:25 pm
Kerryon for me, Showed better than Michel and at this point we can't be certain Michel will have the usage he did last season.

KJ increased usage and Michel decreased usage means I'd rather have the RB that catches passes and was hyper efficient last season.
I agree with this. I'd want at least a top 12 pick in this draft on top of Sony to move Johnson.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby keebs3 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:11 pm

I'd have to add a 1st to Sony to get KJ in my leagues. Then again, I can't move Sony for anyone within 25 APD spots of him in either direction.
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Re: Sony for Kerryon

Postby Titans95 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:09 pm

keebs3 wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:11 pm
I'd have to add a 1st to Sony to get KJ in my leagues. Then again, I can't move Sony for anyone within 25 APD spots of him in either direction.
Then he's a solid hold, I think the worry is valid but I also think it may be overblown. Michel was in talks as the 2nd best RB in a super stacked rookie class, that talent is still there and he was also considered the highest upside best pass catcher outside of Barkley so he could easily see and increased usage there.


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