Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

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Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby jp4703 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:48 pm

I have Keenan Allen and want to trade him away for possibly TY Hilton.

What would need to be added to TY Hilton for this to be fair? I don't know why but I just haven't been a fan of Keenan Allen for some reason.

The owner that has TY is up on the clock during our rookie draft at 1.09. So I asked for TY, 1.09, 2.06 to see what he says. Deebo, AJ Brown, Fant all available. If he accepts I think I'd lean towards drafting AJ Brown since I already own Pettis.
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RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby Indy Blue » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:56 pm

I don't think you are going to get 1.09 and 2.06. You might get one or the other, but not both.
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RB: Kamara, K. Johnson, Drake, Sanders, Rojo, Ajayi, Hyde, Mattison, Dexter Williams
WR: Juju, Evans, Hilton, Cooks, Woods, Boyd, Godwin, Valdes-Scantling, Foster, Cain
TE: Kittle, Ebron, Herndon, Shaheen
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RB: McCaffrey, J. Hill, Singletary, Ballage, Darwin Thompson, Edmonds, Brown
WR: Westbrook, Samuel, Sutton, Allison, Washington, Arcega-Whiteside, Boykin
TE: Gesicki, Shaheen, Sternberger, Warring
K: Badgley
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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:04 pm

You are asking for way too much. KA and Hilton are pretty even. I doubt you will get anything on top of Hilton. You could try asking for the 2.06 though.
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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:12 pm

Allen and Hilton are pretty even. I could see the 2nd pick coming back to you but I highly doubt the 1st is an option.
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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby jp4703 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:21 pm

Based off ADP alone KA is 22 and TY Hilton is 34ish
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby Needalife » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:57 pm

Age is a factor here. 2.5 years is enough of a gap to warrant something extra. I think 1.09 is worth asking for but I'd settle for 2.06.
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WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Courtland Suttion, Mike Williams, Larry Fitzgerald, DaeSean Hamilton, J'Mon Moore
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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby NFL-ons » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:05 pm

Why?... keep Allen. Hilton's value will begin decreasing soon

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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby kmbryant09 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:51 am

Discussed this exact scenario with the Hilton owner in my league (I own Allen), the most he would offer is Hilton + 2020 2nd for Allen. Given that Allen is 2.5 years younger, I didn't feel comfortable pulling the trigger.
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WR: M. Thomas, J. Jones, K. Allen, C. Godwin, Q. Enunwa, Di. Johnson, A. Wilson, D. Thomas, E. St. Brown, Ta. Taylor, P. Williams
TE: T. Kelce, T. Burton, I. Smith Jr., K. Warring, D. Waller

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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby Bubba90 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:15 am

Keep Allen

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Re: Keenan Allen for TY Hilton

Postby Titans95 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:40 am

jp4703 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:48 pm
I have Keenan Allen and want to trade him away for possibly TY Hilton.

What would need to be added to TY Hilton for this to be fair? I don't know why but I just haven't been a fan of Keenan Allen for some reason.

The owner that has TY is up on the clock during our rookie draft at 1.09. So I asked for TY, 1.09, 2.06 to see what he says. Deebo, AJ Brown, Fant all available. If he accepts I think I'd lean towards drafting AJ Brown since I already own Pettis.
This is blasphemous....Maybe I've just been through thick and thin with KA and never waivered in my belief in him but he's probably my favorite receiver to root for.

From a fantasy perspective I don't think it's smart to target TY for KA. Both will be scoring very similarly over the next couple of years but the TY owner isn't going to give up an arm and a leg just to get 2.5 years younger. I doubt you get a 1st on top and I don't think getting a 2nd is worth the 2.5 years of production KA theoretically could give you.

If you insist on getting out from KA then you should be looking to either do a straight up swap for KA and a better receiver that's older or look to acquire a more unproven upside player like Moore+picks


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