Cooks vs 1.01

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Cooks vs 1.01

Postby PTW32 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:49 am

What would make up the difference in value?
Team 1 10 Team PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 3Flex

QB: Lamar, Rodgers
RB: Dalvin, Conner, Lindsay, Royce, Mattison, Miles Gaskin
WR: OBJ, Godwin, Golladay, Boyd, John Brown
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Engram, Tonyan

Team 2 10 Team PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex
QB: Baker, Lock, Big Ben, Brady
RB: Barkley, CEH, Jonathan Taylor, Dobbins, Dion Lewis, Damian Williams, Mattison,
WR: Diggs, Arob, Cortland Sutton, Robert Woods, Lockett, Lamb, TreQuan Smith, Diontae, Randall Cobb, Dante Pettis, Andy Isabella
TE: Andrews, Hurst, Irv Smith Jr

Team 3 12 Team PPR (keep 16)
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3Flex, DL, LB, DB

QB: Goff, Stafford
RB: CMC, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins, Scott, Kerryon
WR: Godwin, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Arob, Lamb, Keenan, Diontae, Cooks, Bryan Edwards
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Schultz
DL: JJ Watt
LB: Cunningham
DB: J. Johnson

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:07 am

Cooks is a sure fire 1,000+ yard WR. The 1.01 is a total dart throw. I would want multiple picks on top of the 1.01 in 2020 to move Cooks. Cooks is not a real flashy name in dynasty that everyone wants but he is a consistent point scorer year after year.

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby hoos89 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:17 am

Gator Sens wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:07 am
Cooks is a sure fire 1,000+ yard WR. The 1.01 is a total dart throw. I would want multiple picks on top of the 1.01 in 2020 to move Cooks. Cooks is not a real flashy name in dynasty that everyone wants but he is a consistent point scorer year after year.
I don't think it's fair to call the 1.01 a total dart throw. Unproven yes, but still a nearly locked-in 3-down starter in a Gruden offense.

Cooks is more valuable, but by probably a late 1st or early 2nd.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Jacobs, Taylor, Conner, Gaskin, D. Harris, McKinnon, Richard, D'Ernest
AJB, Moore, Kupp, Aiyuk, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon
Andrews, Fells, Herndon, Firkser
IR(3): Sutton, Michel, Love
Taxi(4): Claypool, Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater
CEH, McKissic, Barkley, Ito, J. Jackson, Richard, JJ Taylor, Homer
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, Jeudy, T. Higgins, Cooks, Patrick, Byrd, Berrios, C. Johnson, T. Johnson, KeeSean, Foster, J. Smith, Ford
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:26 am

I'd say Cooks = 1.01 + early/mid 2nd
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby bridger32 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:29 am

I would probably sell cooks for the 1.01 and a 2020 first.
Team 1 - 12 Team SuperFlex TE Prem

QB: Wentz, Ryan
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Swift, Carson, Drake, Mack
WR: OBJ, A.J. Brown, Ceedee, Ruggs, Higgins, Pittman, Cooks, Fuller, JJAW, Gordon
TE: Engram, Gronk, Njoku

2021 Picks: one 1st, one 2nd, one 3rd, one 4th, one 5th

Team 2 - 16 Team .5 PPR $200 Salary/Keeper League

QB: Wilson ($18C), Josh Allen ($1C)
RB: Mack ($12C), Montgomery ($15B), Hunt ($40B)
WR: Cooper ($35C), A.J. Brown ($15R), Deebo ($15R), Hollywood ($10B), N'Keal Harry ($15R)
TE: Engram ($11C), Fant ($10B), Jonnu Smith ($1B)

2020 Rookie Picks: 1.08, 1.12, 1.14, 2.14 (30)

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby killer_of_giants » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:34 am

hoos89 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:17 am
I don't think it's fair to call the 1.01 a total dart throw. Unproven yes, but still a nearly locked-in 3-down starter in a Gruden offense.
wow...


i'd want another 1st thrown in anyway.
cooks seems to be criminally underrated and undervalued, but he's only a month older than golladay, who everyone and their dogs rave about, but with four 1000+ seasons under his belt already (on three different teams) and plays in a good offense.

jacobs or harry or whoever you like at 1.01 is not close.

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby NFL-ons » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:37 am

Bye, bye Cooksy.... I love me some Brandon, but I'm gonna offer him up for Jacobs and a first in every league I own him. Especially where the teams earned that draft position.

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby PTW32 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:46 am

Thanks for all the advice. I was in discussions with a guy who wanted 1.01 and wanted to gauge what i should add to get Cooks.

Just agreed to a deal

Give: 1.01, James Washington, 3.11

Get: Brandin Cooks, 2.11
Team 1 10 Team PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 3Flex

QB: Lamar, Rodgers
RB: Dalvin, Conner, Lindsay, Royce, Mattison, Miles Gaskin
WR: OBJ, Godwin, Golladay, Boyd, John Brown
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Engram, Tonyan

Team 2 10 Team PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex
QB: Baker, Lock, Big Ben, Brady
RB: Barkley, CEH, Jonathan Taylor, Dobbins, Dion Lewis, Damian Williams, Mattison,
WR: Diggs, Arob, Cortland Sutton, Robert Woods, Lockett, Lamb, TreQuan Smith, Diontae, Randall Cobb, Dante Pettis, Andy Isabella
TE: Andrews, Hurst, Irv Smith Jr

Team 3 12 Team PPR (keep 16)
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3Flex, DL, LB, DB

QB: Goff, Stafford
RB: CMC, CEH, Mixon, Dobbins, Scott, Kerryon
WR: Godwin, DJ Moore, AJ Brown, Arob, Lamb, Keenan, Diontae, Cooks, Bryan Edwards
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Schultz
DL: JJ Watt
LB: Cunningham
DB: J. Johnson

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby killer_of_giants » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:53 am

Dynasty n00b wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:46 am
Just agreed to a deal

Give: 1.01, James Washington, 3.11

Get: Brandin Cooks, 2.11

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:06 am

Dynasty n00b wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:46 am
Just agreed to a deal

Give: 1.01, James Washington, 3.11
Get: Brandin Cooks, 2.11
I like it
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:20 am

killer_of_giants wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:34 am
hoos89 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:17 am
I don't think it's fair to call the 1.01 a total dart throw. Unproven yes, but still a nearly locked-in 3-down starter in a Gruden offense.
wow...


i'd want another 1st thrown in anyway.
cooks seems to be criminally underrated and undervalued, but he's only a month older than golladay, who everyone and their dogs rave about, but with four 1000+ seasons under his belt already (on three different teams) and plays in a good offense.

jacobs or harry or whoever you like at 1.01 is not close.
Cooks does seem very reliable but I think his shortcomings(har har) has to do with he has reached his ceiling. He has always been a low end wr1/high end wr2. And though it's with different teams(which is slightly concerning honestly) they have been three of the most high powered offenses in the league. So he has peaked in what he can be most likely. Woods, Kupp, Everett, higbee, Reynolds, are all viable targets and more likely to steal targets each year.

I like the guy, but his ceiling is capped and if he were to lose a step for any reason he wouldn't have a ton to fall back on. I'm not saying he is a bad route runner but he makes his living off speed.

I would not value Harry higher by any means, but i don't think Jacobs is that far off value wise. He could bust like all rookies but his ceiling is not capped like Cooks. He could turn into a top 10 rb and it wouldn't take a big imagination to see it happen.
12 man Superflex deep starting requirements with even scoring among positions

11 starters - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Superflex, Flex, Flex, Flex.

1 PPR, 1 points every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 4 points per 100 passing, 4 point passing TDs, -2 INT.

TE premium 1.5 PPR and 1 point per 8.5 yards receiving.

QB- Russel Wilson, Joe Burrow, Matt Ryan, Sam Darnold, Tua Tagovailoa

RB -CEH, James White, Devine Ogzibo, JJ Taylor, Jeffrey Wilson, Gus Edwards

WR - OBJ, JuJu, Keenan Allen, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Aiyuck, Chris Hogan, Jalel Guyton

TE - Dallas Goedert, Noah Fant, Gerald Everett, Logan Thomas, Drew Sample, Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz

IR- Quez Watkins,

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby killer_of_giants » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:29 am

i do like a player "capped" as a low end WR1...

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby perkinsrooster » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:43 am

You draft a guy at 1.1 hoping he will be Cooks. So I think that's the answer. I would need 2019 1.01 and a 2020 first.

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby hoos89 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:31 pm

killer_of_giants wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:34 am
hoos89 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:17 am
I don't think it's fair to call the 1.01 a total dart throw. Unproven yes, but still a nearly locked-in 3-down starter in a Gruden offense.
wow...
Not quite sure what you're saying here, but Gruden feeds his lead backs.
perkinsrooster wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:43 am
You draft a guy at 1.1 hoping he will be Cooks. So I think that's the answer. I would need 2019 1.01 and a 2020 first.
Eh...I think you hope 1.01 ends up being more valuable than Cooks.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Rodgers, Tannehill, Wentz
Jacobs, Taylor, Conner, Gaskin, D. Harris, McKinnon, Richard, D'Ernest
AJB, Moore, Kupp, Aiyuk, Slayton, MVS, Agholor, J. Gordon
Andrews, Fells, Herndon, Firkser
IR(3): Sutton, Michel, Love
Taxi(4): Claypool, Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Tua, Bridgewater
CEH, McKissic, Barkley, Ito, J. Jackson, Richard, JJ Taylor, Homer
J. Jefferson, McLaurin, Jeudy, T. Higgins, Cooks, Patrick, Byrd, Berrios, C. Johnson, T. Johnson, KeeSean, Foster, J. Smith, Ford
Hooper, Herndon
2021 Picks: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Cooks vs 1.01

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:19 pm

hoos89 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:31 pm
killer_of_giants wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:34 am
hoos89 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:17 am
I don't think it's fair to call the 1.01 a total dart throw. Unproven yes, but still a nearly locked-in 3-down starter in a Gruden offense.
wow...
Not quite sure what you're saying here, but Gruden feeds his lead backs.
perkinsrooster wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:43 am
You draft a guy at 1.1 hoping he will be Cooks. So I think that's the answer. I would need 2019 1.01 and a 2020 first.
Eh...I think you hope 1.01 ends up being more valuable than Cooks.
Yeah, you aren't sorry if the 1.01 is Cooks. But you would like it to be a Julio/obj/Zeke type result so it's worth 3 early 1sts. Otherwise you are just spinning your wheels with the 1.01. Although that's better than wearing all the Treadwell off them.
12 man Superflex deep starting requirements with even scoring among positions

11 starters - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Superflex, Flex, Flex, Flex.

1 PPR, 1 points every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 4 points per 100 passing, 4 point passing TDs, -2 INT.

TE premium 1.5 PPR and 1 point per 8.5 yards receiving.

QB- Russel Wilson, Joe Burrow, Matt Ryan, Sam Darnold, Tua Tagovailoa

RB -CEH, James White, Devine Ogzibo, JJ Taylor, Jeffrey Wilson, Gus Edwards

WR - OBJ, JuJu, Keenan Allen, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Aiyuck, Chris Hogan, Jalel Guyton

TE - Dallas Goedert, Noah Fant, Gerald Everett, Logan Thomas, Drew Sample, Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz

IR- Quez Watkins,

2021 -2,2,2,5
2022-1,1,2,4,5


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