Which QB.
Which QB.
Trying to decide between Winston and Wentz for my keeper this year. Who do you like?
12 Team Full Dynasty with IDP - 53 man in season rosters, 75 man off season rosters
Start qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, te, flex, dl, 2 lbs, 2 dbs, 2 def flex
Off. scoring - ppr, 6 pts all tds, .1pt/1 yard rushing and passing, 1pt/20 yards passing
IDP scoring - 2pts/tackle and sack, 1pt/asst tackle, 3 pts/ff and fr, 4pts/INT
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Off. scoring - ppr, 6 pts all tds, .1pt/1 yard rushing and passing, 1pt/20 yards passing
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Re: Which QB.
Do they have the same cost? The range of outcomes is similar on both: great weapons, aggressive playcallers, real downside risk (injury for Wentz, benching for Winston - though less likely with Arians). Both have top 5 fantasy QBs in range of outcomes, both could miss time).
I think it's a toss-up and personal preference is fine. I'd go with whoever has an easier opening month schedule and is more likely to get off to a fast start (probably Winston).
I think it's a toss-up and personal preference is fine. I'd go with whoever has an easier opening month schedule and is more likely to get off to a fast start (probably Winston).
Team 1
12 Team - SuperFlex, PPR, 1.25 TE PPR - 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex 1 SuperFlex
QB: Kyler, Lamar, Bridgewater
RB: Barkley, D Johnson, Jacobs, Breida, Ballage, J Jackson, Dexter Willams, Riddick
WR: Thielen, Watkins, Lockett, Edelman, R Anderson, Funchess, Boykin, Chark
TE: Kittle, Herndon
Team 2
12 Team - SuperFlex PPR - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex 1 SuperFlex
QB: Ryan, Mariota, Eli, D. Jones, Tannehill
RB: L. Bell, Kerryon, Mack, J White, Darwin Thompson, Gallman
WR: Hopkins, Watkins, Pettis, R Anderson, Keke, J. Gordon
TE: Kelce, Shaheen
Team 3 - Orphan Rebuild (2019 Takeover)
12 Team - SuperFlex/TE Premium/PPR - 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 4Flex 1 SuperFlex
QB: Baker, Wentz
RB: D. Harris, R. Jones, James Williams
WR: A.J. Brown, P. Campbell, JJAW, Keke, Isabella
TE: Henry, Irv Smith, Sternberger, J. Oliver, ASJ
2020: 3 1sts, 4 2nds
12 Team - SuperFlex, PPR, 1.25 TE PPR - 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex 1 SuperFlex
QB: Kyler, Lamar, Bridgewater
RB: Barkley, D Johnson, Jacobs, Breida, Ballage, J Jackson, Dexter Willams, Riddick
WR: Thielen, Watkins, Lockett, Edelman, R Anderson, Funchess, Boykin, Chark
TE: Kittle, Herndon
Team 2
12 Team - SuperFlex PPR - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex 1 SuperFlex
QB: Ryan, Mariota, Eli, D. Jones, Tannehill
RB: L. Bell, Kerryon, Mack, J White, Darwin Thompson, Gallman
WR: Hopkins, Watkins, Pettis, R Anderson, Keke, J. Gordon
TE: Kelce, Shaheen
Team 3 - Orphan Rebuild (2019 Takeover)
12 Team - SuperFlex/TE Premium/PPR - 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 4Flex 1 SuperFlex
QB: Baker, Wentz
RB: D. Harris, R. Jones, James Williams
WR: A.J. Brown, P. Campbell, JJAW, Keke, Isabella
TE: Henry, Irv Smith, Sternberger, J. Oliver, ASJ
2020: 3 1sts, 4 2nds
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Re: Which QB.
This is Wentz very, very easily. Winston got benched last year. lol
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
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Re: Which QB.
Wentz easily for me
Re: Which QB.
Wentz easily for me.
12 Team PPR League 1Qb 2Rb 3Wr 1Flex 1Te 1Def 1K
1 QB Mahomes, Dak Prescott
2 RB Mixon, Kamara, Melvin Gordon, Nick Chubb, Royce Freeman, Justice Hill, Boston Scott, Ito Smith
3 WR Godwin, K. Allen, A. Cooper, S. Watkins, DJ Moore, Michael Gallup, Kelvin Harmon, Martavis Bryant, Core Coleman(IR) Preston Williams(IR)
1 TE Mark Andrews, H. Henry, H. Hurst, Ian Thomas, Goedert
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1 QB Mahomes, Dak Prescott
2 RB Mixon, Kamara, Melvin Gordon, Nick Chubb, Royce Freeman, Justice Hill, Boston Scott, Ito Smith
3 WR Godwin, K. Allen, A. Cooper, S. Watkins, DJ Moore, Michael Gallup, Kelvin Harmon, Martavis Bryant, Core Coleman(IR) Preston Williams(IR)
1 TE Mark Andrews, H. Henry, H. Hurst, Ian Thomas, Goedert
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Re: Which QB.
Yes they come at the same cost. I could possibly keep both, but its a start 1 qb, 16 team league. I'd have to let Guice or Hunt go instead.mctheniat15 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 3:09 pm Do they have the same cost? The range of outcomes is similar on both: great weapons, aggressive playcallers, real downside risk (injury for Wentz, benching for Winston - though less likely with Arians). Both have top 5 fantasy QBs in range of outcomes, both could miss time).
I think it's a toss-up and personal preference is fine. I'd go with whoever has an easier opening month schedule and is more likely to get off to a fast start (probably Winston).
12 Team Full Dynasty with IDP - 53 man in season rosters, 75 man off season rosters
Start qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, te, flex, dl, 2 lbs, 2 dbs, 2 def flex
Off. scoring - ppr, 6 pts all tds, .1pt/1 yard rushing and passing, 1pt/20 yards passing
IDP scoring - 2pts/tackle and sack, 1pt/asst tackle, 3 pts/ff and fr, 4pts/INT
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Start qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, te, flex, dl, 2 lbs, 2 dbs, 2 def flex
Off. scoring - ppr, 6 pts all tds, .1pt/1 yard rushing and passing, 1pt/20 yards passing
IDP scoring - 2pts/tackle and sack, 1pt/asst tackle, 3 pts/ff and fr, 4pts/INT
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Re: Which QB.
Neither are great options but Wentz pretty easily for me
12 team PPR
QB: Drew Brees
RB: Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Chris Thompson, James White, Dion Lewis, Mike Davis
WR: Mike Evans, Adam Thielen, Tyreek Hill, Willie Snead, Robby Anderson, Keelan Cole
TE: Charles Clay, Eric Ebron
QB: Drew Brees
RB: Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Chris Thompson, James White, Dion Lewis, Mike Davis
WR: Mike Evans, Adam Thielen, Tyreek Hill, Willie Snead, Robby Anderson, Keelan Cole
TE: Charles Clay, Eric Ebron
Re: Which QB.
It's close if this year is the only thing being considered, but typical dynasty/long-term value it's Wentz by a mile.
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Re: Which QB.
Winston doesn’t have T5 in his outcomes, not even close.mctheniat15 wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 3:09 pm Do they have the same cost? The range of outcomes is similar on both: great weapons, aggressive playcallers, real downside risk (injury for Wentz, benching for Winston - though less likely with Arians). Both have top 5 fantasy QBs in range of outcomes, both could miss time).
I think it's a toss-up and personal preference is fine. I'd go with whoever has an easier opening month schedule and is more likely to get off to a fast start (probably Winston).
Team 1 - 10 Team PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX
QBs: Wentz, Big Ben, Darnold, Murray, Bridgewater
RBs: Chubb, Mack, L. Miller, Monty, Foreman, Henderson, Ballage, Armstead, R. Anderson
WRs: OBJ, K. Allen, Cooks, ARob, Z. Jones, Chark, K. White, D. Robinson, McLaurin
TE: Howard, Njoku, Reed
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2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4
Team 2 - 10 Team PPR SF - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1SF
QBs: Mayfield, Watson, Jimmy GQ, Grier
RBs: Barkley, Sony, Lewis, D. Thompson, Love
WRs: Thomas, OBJ, AB, Kupp, ARob, C. Ridley, Alshon, MVS, Chark, Gordon, McLaurin, Quinn
TE: Burton, Walker
Picks:
2020: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3
2021: 1, 3
2022: 1-3
Team 3 - 10 Team PPR - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX
QBs: Watson, Wilson, Mayfield, Murray, Grier
RBs: Ballage, Henderson, Hunt, Hill, Armstead, Anderson, Williams, Thompson, Crockett
WRs: Nuk, Evans, Cooper, Cooks, Samuel, Butler, Chark, Quinn, Robinson, D. Johnson, Morgan Jr.
TEs: Fant, Dissly, Goedert
Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4
QBs: Wentz, Big Ben, Darnold, Murray, Bridgewater
RBs: Chubb, Mack, L. Miller, Monty, Foreman, Henderson, Ballage, Armstead, R. Anderson
WRs: OBJ, K. Allen, Cooks, ARob, Z. Jones, Chark, K. White, D. Robinson, McLaurin
TE: Howard, Njoku, Reed
Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4
Team 2 - 10 Team PPR SF - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1SF
QBs: Mayfield, Watson, Jimmy GQ, Grier
RBs: Barkley, Sony, Lewis, D. Thompson, Love
WRs: Thomas, OBJ, AB, Kupp, ARob, C. Ridley, Alshon, MVS, Chark, Gordon, McLaurin, Quinn
TE: Burton, Walker
Picks:
2020: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3
2021: 1, 3
2022: 1-3
Team 3 - 10 Team PPR - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLEX
QBs: Watson, Wilson, Mayfield, Murray, Grier
RBs: Ballage, Henderson, Hunt, Hill, Armstead, Anderson, Williams, Thompson, Crockett
WRs: Nuk, Evans, Cooper, Cooks, Samuel, Butler, Chark, Quinn, Robinson, D. Johnson, Morgan Jr.
TEs: Fant, Dissly, Goedert
Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4
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Re: Which QB.
Ryan Fitzpatrick averaged the second-most points-per-game last year. Winston, despite being benched twice in the middle of a game and despite having an 8-point game against the Ravens, averaged the twelfth-most points-per-game last year.ChefHerbie wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 5:58 pm Winston doesn’t have T5 in his outcomes, not even close.
Add up Fitzpatrick's and Winston's totals from last year, and only Mahomes outscored the duo.
So, yes, Winston has top-5 upside in 2019.
I'd still lean toward Wentz, though, since floor is as important as ceiling in a 16-team league, and Wentz's is considerably higher (and he has top-5 upside himself).
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
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Re: Which QB.
x2thomasscheeks wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2019 3:10 pm This is Wentz very, very easily. Winston got benched last year. lol
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Which QB.
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