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Lockett Value

Postby jdomer2403 » Thu May 30, 2019 12:31 pm

What is Tyler Lockett's value in 2020 picks?

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Re: Lockett Value

Postby thomasscheeks » Thu May 30, 2019 12:33 pm

Two seconds? I don't think I would pay a first
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby NFL123 » Thu May 30, 2019 12:49 pm

I would say a 2nd, still not completely sold on him, especially with the worth of the 2020 picks just now.
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm

Mid 1st. I think Lockett is very underrated right now. Baldwin's release cements Lockett as the clear no. 1 receiver, and even if SEA wants to be run-heavy, Chancellor's release is another big blow to the defense. They will need to throw, at least more than last year.
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm

More than a 2nd, less than a first, so I guess two seconds for me. The guy had a very productive year last year, but that efficiency won't be duplicated. The Seahawks don't throw a lot, and don't feature a WR. Lockett is worth more in real football terms than in Fantasy. The Seahawks aren't a good team to invest in at the WR position in FF, IMO. Lockett has played 4 years and never eclipsed 1000 yards, and had a huge outlier TD season last year.
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby mctheniat15 » Thu May 30, 2019 12:53 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm Mid 1st. I think he's very underrated right now.
I am a Lockett owner and it would take this vs. the 2nd round offers. He's good at football and clearly the #1 target attached to a top 5 NFL QB with limited competition. A move to the slot should increase his overall target share.

The biggest knock is that Seattle's offense is very run first. In my mind, the offense can only improve in this regard for Lockett, meaning his value has the potential to rise if they ever unleash Russ at some point (not impossible).
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WR: Thielen, Watkins, Lockett, Edelman, R Anderson, Funchess, Boykin, Chark
TE: Kittle, Herndon


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QB: Ryan, Mariota, Eli, D. Jones, Tannehill
RB: L. Bell, Kerryon, Mack, J White, Darwin Thompson, Gallman
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby thomasscheeks » Thu May 30, 2019 12:55 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm More than a 2nd, less than a first, so I guess two seconds for me. The guy had a very productive year last year, but that efficiency won't be duplicated. The Seahawks don't throw a lot, and don't feature a WR. Lockett is worth more in real football terms than in Fantasy. The Seahawks aren't a good team to invest in at the WR position in FF, IMO. Lockett has played 4 years and never eclipsed 1000 yards, and had a huge outlier TD season last year.
Hit the nail on the head.

Also, they drafted Metcalf. You know he's gonna get plenty of downfield targets
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu May 30, 2019 12:56 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm Mid 1st. I think Lockett is very underrated right now. Baldwin's release cements Lockett as the clear no. 1 receiver, and even if SEA wants to be run-heavy, Chancellor's release is another big blow to the defense. They will need to throw, at least more than last year.
Baldwin was not really a huge factor last year, though. Seattle doesn't really feature a WR, as I already stated. I think his targets will go up, but his efficiency will decline, resulting in a net zero. I expect similar production, with more receptions and less TD's. I think a mid first is a tad steep, I certainly would not pay that, but don't fault an owner for having that as their selling point. As with so many players, The sell point and buy point are not the same.
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby mctheniat15 » Thu May 30, 2019 1:00 pm

thomasscheeks wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:55 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm More than a 2nd, less than a first, so I guess two seconds for me. The guy had a very productive year last year, but that efficiency won't be duplicated. The Seahawks don't throw a lot, and don't feature a WR. Lockett is worth more in real football terms than in Fantasy. The Seahawks aren't a good team to invest in at the WR position in FF, IMO. Lockett has played 4 years and never eclipsed 1000 yards, and had a huge outlier TD season last year.
Hit the nail on the head.

Also, they drafted Metcalf. You know he's gonna get plenty of downfield targets
Agree on Metcalf being a downfield threat, but the historical Baldwin role is total vacated and Lockett can offer a hybrid solution where he soaks up higher % targets in the slot but maintains his deep ball capabilities. Lockett is also a matchup nightmare for slot defenders and has historically crushed it when running routes there.

In my mind his ceiling is a TY Hilton like player in this role, so I'll hold onto the chance of that and pass on a late first or 2nd rounder.
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WR: Thielen, Watkins, Lockett, Edelman, R Anderson, Funchess, Boykin, Chark
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RB: L. Bell, Kerryon, Mack, J White, Darwin Thompson, Gallman
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby Gator Sens » Thu May 30, 2019 1:21 pm

He should command a 1st but I think a high 2nd is more realistic.

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Re: Lockett Value

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu May 30, 2019 1:41 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:56 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm Mid 1st. I think Lockett is very underrated right now. Baldwin's release cements Lockett as the clear no. 1 receiver, and even if SEA wants to be run-heavy, Chancellor's release is another big blow to the defense. They will need to throw, at least more than last year.
Baldwin was not really a huge factor last year, though. Seattle doesn't really feature a WR, as I already stated. I think his targets will go up, but his efficiency will decline, resulting in a net zero. I expect similar production, with more receptions and less TD's. I think a mid first is a tad steep, I certainly would not pay that, but don't fault an owner for having that as their selling point. As with so many players, The sell point and buy point are not the same.
Agreed, but I guess what I'm saying is that Lockett can be what Baldwin was at his peak, if not more due to better athleticism. I think Lockett's floor is to repeat as a PPR WR2 as he was last year (more receptions/yards despite TD regression) with a chance to be a PPR WR1. While he won't command 150+ targets or anything like that, I do think Lockett's targets can go up to at least the 85-100 range, especially in the slot.
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby mctheniat15 » Thu May 30, 2019 1:47 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 1:41 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:56 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm Mid 1st. I think Lockett is very underrated right now. Baldwin's release cements Lockett as the clear no. 1 receiver, and even if SEA wants to be run-heavy, Chancellor's release is another big blow to the defense. They will need to throw, at least more than last year.
Baldwin was not really a huge factor last year, though. Seattle doesn't really feature a WR, as I already stated. I think his targets will go up, but his efficiency will decline, resulting in a net zero. I expect similar production, with more receptions and less TD's. I think a mid first is a tad steep, I certainly would not pay that, but don't fault an owner for having that as their selling point. As with so many players, The sell point and buy point are not the same.
Agreed, but I guess what I'm saying is that Lockett can be what Baldwin was at his peak, if not more due to better athleticism. I think Lockett's floor is to repeat as a PPR WR2 as he was last year (more receptions/yards despite TD regression) with a chance to be a PPR WR1. While he won't command 150+ targets or anything like that, I do think Lockett's targets can go up to at least the 85-100 range, especially in the slot.
Agreed with this position. Baldwin had over 100 targets 3 times, topping out at 125 targets in 2016 (he scored 250 ppr points that year).
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QB: Kyler, Lamar, Bridgewater
RB: Barkley, D Johnson, Jacobs, Breida, Ballage, J Jackson, Dexter Willams, Riddick
WR: Thielen, Watkins, Lockett, Edelman, R Anderson, Funchess, Boykin, Chark
TE: Kittle, Herndon


Team 2
12 Team - SuperFlex PPR - 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2Flex 1 SuperFlex
QB: Ryan, Mariota, Eli, D. Jones, Tannehill
RB: L. Bell, Kerryon, Mack, J White, Darwin Thompson, Gallman
WR: Hopkins, Watkins, Pettis, R Anderson, Keke, J. Gordon
TE: Kelce, Shaheen


Team 3 - Orphan Rebuild (2019 Takeover)
12 Team - SuperFlex/TE Premium/PPR - 1QB 1RB 1WR 1TE 4Flex 1 SuperFlex
QB: Baker, Wentz
RB: D. Harris, R. Jones, James Williams
WR: A.J. Brown, P. Campbell, JJAW, Keke, Isabella
TE: Henry, Irv Smith, Sternberger, J. Oliver, ASJ


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Re: Lockett Value

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Thu May 30, 2019 2:10 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 1:41 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:56 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:50 pm Mid 1st. I think Lockett is very underrated right now. Baldwin's release cements Lockett as the clear no. 1 receiver, and even if SEA wants to be run-heavy, Chancellor's release is another big blow to the defense. They will need to throw, at least more than last year.
Baldwin was not really a huge factor last year, though. Seattle doesn't really feature a WR, as I already stated. I think his targets will go up, but his efficiency will decline, resulting in a net zero. I expect similar production, with more receptions and less TD's. I think a mid first is a tad steep, I certainly would not pay that, but don't fault an owner for having that as their selling point. As with so many players, The sell point and buy point are not the same.
Agreed, but I guess what I'm saying is that Lockett can be what Baldwin was at his peak, if not more due to better athleticism. I think Lockett's floor is to repeat as a PPR WR2 as he was last year (more receptions/yards despite TD regression) with a chance to be a PPR WR1. While he won't command 150+ targets or anything like that, I do think Lockett's targets can go up to at least the 85-100 range, especially in the slot.
This for me too. I also think Lockett is under-rated right now. I don’t think Metcalf will soak up most of those targets, Lockett’s targets will definitely go up.

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Re: Lockett Value

Postby smallxl » Thu May 30, 2019 3:20 pm

thomasscheeks wrote: Thu May 30, 2019 12:33 pm Two seconds? I don't think I would pay a first
I'm not moving Lockett for a bunch of junk. Too much upside. I'd want a mid-first to even consider
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Re: Lockett Value

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu May 30, 2019 3:37 pm

I really don't think anyone will sell for less than a 1st. I'd pay a late looking 20 1st for him.
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