JHoward OR PBarber+'20 3rd

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JHoward OR PBarber+'20 3rd

Postby throwaway1604 » Wed May 29, 2019 12:36 pm

Considering trading away Howard to the Sanders owner. Grabbed Bruce Anderson in my rookie draft so thought I'd try and target the other Bucs RBs. RoJo also available so I'd follow up and trade for him. I know values not there necessarily but thoughts?
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Re: JHoward OR PBarber+'20 3rd

Postby Gator Sens » Wed May 29, 2019 12:39 pm

I would want more for Howard. Can you get a higher pick added?

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Re: JHoward OR PBarber+'20 3rd

Postby throwaway1604 » Wed May 29, 2019 12:48 pm

Potentially. Would a 2nd close the gap?
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Re: JHoward OR PBarber+'20 3rd

Postby BeeziBad » Wed May 29, 2019 1:26 pm

There is really no telling what the RB situation will totally be in both of those backfields but I think Howard has a much higher floor. bump that 3rd to a 2nd and we're good.
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Re: JHoward OR PBarber+'20 3rd

Postby M-Dub » Wed May 29, 2019 1:31 pm

Barber is likely to be the starter in TB. I wouldn’t trade him straight up for a plodding, stone-handed backup RB, let alone add anything.
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Re: JHoward OR PBarber+'20 3rd

Postby hoos89 » Wed May 29, 2019 6:02 pm

M-Dub wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 1:31 pm Barber is likely to be the starter in TB. I wouldn’t trade him straight up for a plodding, stone-handed backup RB, let alone add anything.
I'm not sure that Barber is substantially more likely to start on day 1 than Howard. Also weird to use "plodding" and "stone-handed" as knocks on Howard in the context of a trade for Barber.
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Re: JHoward OR PBarber+'20 3rd

Postby M-Dub » Thu May 30, 2019 1:51 am

hoos89 wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 6:02 pm
M-Dub wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 1:31 pm Barber is likely to be the starter in TB. I wouldn’t trade him straight up for a plodding, stone-handed backup RB, let alone add anything.
I'm not sure that Barber is substantially more likely to start on day 1 than Howard. Also weird to use "plodding" and "stone-handed" as knocks on Howard in the context of a trade for Barber.
Touché on the bolded part, but I’ll respectfully disagree on the first sentence. Barring injury, I think it is, in fact, substantially more likely that Barber beats out RoJo for the starting job in TB than it is that Howard beats out Sanders, Clement, Adams and Smallwood for the starting job in Philly. The point I was trying to make, albeit a bit hyperbolically, is that Barber >\= Howard, and being a Sanders owner wouldn’t make me want Howard any more. If anything, it’d make me want him less.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0


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