Adams vs Thielen + ?

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Adams
12
80%
Thielen/picks
3
20%
 
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Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby Daltanian » Wed May 22, 2019 9:34 pm

16 team superflex IDP, start 3-5 receivers.

Currently have Adams, Kupp, Hilton, Larry Fitz, Andy Isabella, and DeMarcus Robinson as notable receivers.

In the middle of the rookie draft, and was offered:

Thielen, a 2020 1st (likely in the 1.10-1.14 range), a 2019 mid 4th, and mid 5th.

I do like Thielen and in a 16 team league could use the other picks to help with IDP. However, it seems a little on the light side?

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
16 Team Superflex

QB: R. Wilson, Tannehill
RB: CMC, A. Kamara, A. Ekeler, CEH
WR: D. Adams, M. Thomas, T. Lockett, AJ Green, J. Edelman, L. Fitzgerald
TE: Kittle, J. Cook,

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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby Mike from Canada » Wed May 22, 2019 9:44 pm

It's not terrible but I don't think there is quite enough in it for you.

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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:16 pm

Have him change the 4th to a 2nd and then accept it.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby Daltanian » Thu May 23, 2019 5:20 am

Thanks guys. I'll have to see what I can swing. If the 1st was earlier I think I'd be more willing.
16 Team Superflex

QB: R. Wilson, Tannehill
RB: CMC, A. Kamara, A. Ekeler, CEH
WR: D. Adams, M. Thomas, T. Lockett, AJ Green, J. Edelman, L. Fitzgerald
TE: Kittle, J. Cook,

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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby Madcity_matt » Thu May 23, 2019 5:38 am

I’d much rather have Adams, I’d need more

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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Thu May 23, 2019 6:11 am

Adams by quite a bit. A late 1st next year is not nearly enough to close the gap between them. Would need another significant piece added to even consider it.
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RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu May 23, 2019 8:09 am

BelichekYourSelf wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 6:11 am Adams by quite a bit. A late 1st next year is not nearly enough to close the gap between them. Would need another significant piece added to even consider it.
x2 but to be fair, it's hard to expect the same mega trade value for studs in deeper 16-team leagues since everyone is hurting for depth. At the end of the day though, it's not enough to break up what has to be one of the best WR groups in such a deep format.
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby Daltanian » Thu May 23, 2019 8:29 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 8:09 am
BelichekYourSelf wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 6:11 am Adams by quite a bit. A late 1st next year is not nearly enough to close the gap between them. Would need another significant piece added to even consider it.
x2 but to be fair, it's hard to expect the same mega trade value for studs in deeper 16-team leagues since everyone is hurting for depth. At the end of the day though, it's not enough to break up what has to be one of the best WR groups in such a deep format.
If the 1st was more of a mid rounder, how much does that move the needle?

I'm attempting to get a little more added, but due to the reasons you mentioned it's tough in this size league to give up a ton of depth.
16 Team Superflex

QB: R. Wilson, Tannehill
RB: CMC, A. Kamara, A. Ekeler, CEH
WR: D. Adams, M. Thomas, T. Lockett, AJ Green, J. Edelman, L. Fitzgerald
TE: Kittle, J. Cook,

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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu May 23, 2019 9:10 am

Adams with the current trade structure

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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu May 23, 2019 9:31 am

Daltanian wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 8:29 am
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 8:09 am
BelichekYourSelf wrote: Thu May 23, 2019 6:11 am Adams by quite a bit. A late 1st next year is not nearly enough to close the gap between them. Would need another significant piece added to even consider it.
x2 but to be fair, it's hard to expect the same mega trade value for studs in deeper 16-team leagues since everyone is hurting for depth. At the end of the day though, it's not enough to break up what has to be one of the best WR groups in such a deep format.
If the 1st was more of a mid rounder, how much does that move the needle?

I'm attempting to get a little more added, but due to the reasons you mentioned it's tough in this size league to give up a ton of depth.
I think I'd consider Adams for Thielen + mid 1st + early/mid 2nd. That'd be more or less equivalent value to Thielen + two 1sts in a normal 10 or 12-team format.
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Adams vs Thielen + ?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:47 am

Adams??? OMGosh I’m an idiot.

I read it as ALLEN last night, like Keenan Allen

I would keep Davante Adams.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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