Mahomes vs Baker

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Mahomes vs Baker

Postby dougw060 » Tue May 21, 2019 5:31 pm

What would you need added onto Baker to sell Mahomes in Superflex?
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby kellysheroes » Tue May 21, 2019 6:06 pm

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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby schmity81 » Tue May 21, 2019 6:08 pm

The value of 2 Bakers. And I own Baker

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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue May 21, 2019 6:35 pm

I'd say Mahomes = Mayfield + early/mid 1st in superflex.
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby Gator Sens » Tue May 21, 2019 6:40 pm

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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby Smoking Guns » Tue May 21, 2019 8:22 pm

Be patient with Mayfield ,eventually I think he passes Mahomes ,and it is not all that far away.

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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby Jigga94 » Wed May 22, 2019 4:55 am

Yeah I might give a mid to late 1st but if I can get that to move from Mahomes to Baker, I probably do that instantly
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - 14 Keepers
QB: Mahomes, Baker, D. Jones, Minshew, Luck (IR)
RB: Sony, D. Freeman, Penny, J. Jackson, Ito, Mostert
WR: Tyreek, Julio, Cooks, D.J. Moore, Hollywood, C. Davis, Parris, Washington, MVS, Preston, KeeSean
TE: Andrews, Henry
2020: 1, 2, 3...

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Baker, Cam, Rivers, Minshew, Foles (IR)
RB: CMC, Kerryon, Ingram, Penny, Hunt, J. Jackson J. Samuels, Gus, Ballage
WR: D.J. Moore, Mike Will, C. Davis, Parris, Fuller, MVS, Preston, Pettis
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed May 22, 2019 5:04 am

Mahomes is #1 in my rankings and Mayfield is #2. So anything you can get on top of Baker would be good with me. You should be able to get some kind of a first added on.
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby jwb32 » Wed May 22, 2019 8:43 am

I don't play SF so take this for what its worth. But how can we possibly expect another 2018 out of Mahomes?? Historically, nearly every QB1 has regressed the following year. And he has likely lost his top downfield weapon in Hill. And Mayfield now has OBJ. No way I'm adding a 1st to Mayfield.
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby Jigga94 » Wed May 22, 2019 10:33 am

jwb32 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 8:43 am
I don't play SF so take this for what its worth. But how can we possibly expect another 2018 out of Mahomes?? Historically, nearly every QB1 has regressed the following year. And he has likely lost his top downfield weapon in Hill. And Mayfield now has OBJ. No way I'm adding a 1st to Mayfield.
The SF part is where it goes to a 1st. In a 1 QB league, I doubt the difference is more than a 2nd
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RB: Sony, D. Freeman, Penny, J. Jackson, Ito, Mostert
WR: Tyreek, Julio, Cooks, D.J. Moore, Hollywood, C. Davis, Parris, Washington, MVS, Preston, KeeSean
TE: Andrews, Henry
2020: 1, 2, 3...

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - 20 Keepers
QB: Baker, Cam, Rivers, Minshew, Foles (IR)
RB: CMC, Kerryon, Ingram, Penny, Hunt, J. Jackson J. Samuels, Gus, Ballage
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby frisco86 » Wed May 22, 2019 3:50 pm

I love me some Mahomes. I have Mayfield (was lucky enough to get Chubb and Mayfield out of the .06 spot). He is very good. Arrogant yes. Mahomes is mild manner. Someone is going to want to kill Mayfield. I expect more injuries. But Mayfields cast of weapons is very very nice. No Kelce at the TE but otherwise very nice. Both young. Based on who has done IT. Mahomes. So yes a mid 1st. I wouldnt trade em for a late 1st if I had Mahomes.
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Thu May 23, 2019 6:23 am

jwb32 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 8:43 am
I don't play SF so take this for what its worth. But how can we possibly expect another 2018 out of Mahomes?? Historically, nearly every QB1 has regressed the following year. And he has likely lost his top downfield weapon in Hill. And Mayfield now has OBJ. No way I'm adding a 1st to Mayfield.
Historically QBs don't throw for 5000 yards and 50 TDs in their first season as a starter. I feel very safe penciling Mahomes in for 5000 yards and 40 TDs every year for the foreseeable future. I love Baker. I wouldn't take Baker and an early 1st for Mahomes though. I think Baker is going to be very very good. I just don't think he's ever going to be on Mahomes' Uber Elite level consistently.
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby djeternal2 » Thu May 23, 2019 6:46 am

BelichekYourSelf wrote:
Thu May 23, 2019 6:23 am
jwb32 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 8:43 am
I don't play SF so take this for what its worth. But how can we possibly expect another 2018 out of Mahomes?? Historically, nearly every QB1 has regressed the following year. And he has likely lost his top downfield weapon in Hill. And Mayfield now has OBJ. No way I'm adding a 1st to Mayfield.
Historically QBs don't throw for 5000 yards and 50 TDs in their first season as a starter. I feel very safe penciling Mahomes in for 5000 yards and 40 TDs every year for the foreseeable future. I love Baker. I wouldn't take Baker and an early 1st for Mahomes though. I think Baker is going to be very very good. I just don't think he's ever going to be on Mahomes' Uber Elite level consistently.

You realize throwing for 5k yards has happened exactly 11 times (and Brees has 5 of those) in the history of the NFL right? I love Mahomes and am an owner but in no way would I feel safe penciling him in for 5k ever year when it's only happened a handful of times.
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby KAT » Thu May 23, 2019 9:17 am

jwb32 wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 8:43 am
I don't play SF so take this for what its worth. But how can we possibly expect another 2018 out of Mahomes?? Historically, nearly every QB1 has regressed the following year. And he has likely lost his top downfield weapon in Hill. And Mayfield now has OBJ. No way I'm adding a 1st to Mayfield.
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Re: Mahomes vs Baker

Postby keebs3 » Thu May 23, 2019 9:20 am

I'm personally not adding anything more than a 2nd to Baker to get Mahomes. I'm perfectly happy starting Baker and seeing what solid prospect I can get in 2020.
If I'm a Mahomes owner- this is exactly what I'm trying to do this off-season.
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