Watkins or Sony

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Watkins or Sony

Postby saw061600 » Sat May 18, 2019 6:04 pm

Watkins is steadily moving up ADP and Sony is starting to slip (everyone worried about the same old NE RBBC).

Even trade? What's your difference if not?
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby DLF_TylerK » Sat May 18, 2019 6:06 pm

This is a rough one because I don't like either player at their draft cost. I'd lean Sony still, but I'm not even sure I'd add a 2nd to Watkins to get Sony. I would prefer to try and target someone other than these guys though.
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 18, 2019 7:29 pm

Sony for me. Showed huge upside last year. Watkins is what he is, not that special
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat May 18, 2019 7:51 pm

This is a roster dependent question, IMO. Both are pieces that will be primarily on win-now rosters, and I could see either guy fall majorly in ADP if they have a poor statistical 2019, or they tear an ACL in training camp, etc.
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby hoos89 » Sun May 19, 2019 1:58 pm

Gator Sens wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 7:29 pm Sony for me. Showed huge upside last year. Watkins is what he is, not that special
Watkins has also shown huge upside in the past. He's just a major injury risk. Both players are risky, although I perceive Michel's value to be higher at this moment.
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby Favrezilla » Sun May 19, 2019 3:07 pm

There's no situation I would trade Sony for Watkins straightup
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby throwaway1604 » Sun May 19, 2019 3:13 pm

Interesting article I read recently that talked about how per game averages Sony is right on par with the Tier 1 RBs. Which team is this for in your sig?
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby Mcbearington » Sun May 19, 2019 3:16 pm

My personal opinion is I'd rather have Sony on my roster out of those two. If I owned Watkins and was offered Sony straight up I'd take the deal immediately, definitely wouldn't the other way though.
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby pvillebiker » Sun May 19, 2019 5:17 pm

yeah, but do you really think Sony's value will be > Watkins by start of the season? With Tyreek all but out and talk of Sammy is the de facto KC WR1. His value is going up. Sony's is not after the draft added more RB competition. I'm betting in most leagues you'll prolly need to add something to the Sony side to get Sammy by week #3 of the pre-season.
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby hoos89 » Sun May 19, 2019 5:24 pm

I don't think their values will move much until the season starts (barring injury or major Hill news).
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Re: Watkins or Sony

Postby saw061600 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:03 pm

throwaway1604 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 3:13 pm Interesting article I read recently that talked about how per game averages Sony is right on par with the Tier 1 RBs. Which team is this for in your sig?
Team 2 but there are some other leagues where I may consider as well.

Agree that most will have Sony higher right now, but the ADP gap has steadily lessened.
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AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
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