Hamilton vs J Samuels

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Hamilton vs J Samuels

Postby zoster80 » Fri May 17, 2019 7:32 pm

I got an offer of D Hamilton for J Samuels, who do you like? Since it’s with my PLP rebuild I’m think long term.
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Zo Nasty -12 Teams, PPR, 26 players - Keep 20
Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, Flex, K, DST

QB: Rodgers Herbert
RB: Ekeler, D Johnson, M Gaskins, Gurley, Z Moss, T Cohen, Ito Smith, D Evans, Ingram
WR: M. Evans, D. Hopkins, Juju, K Allen, T Johnson, G Davis, Pascal, T Smith
TE: Kelce Fant,Gesicki,
DST: Colts NE
K: Butker

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PLP - 12 Teams, PPR, 27 Active roster - Keep 21 -
Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, K, DST

QB: R Wilson Bridgewater,
RB: Zeke, CEH, M Sanders, Hines, Gio, S. Michel L Bell, D Evans, Justice hill, Darrel Williams, T Pollard, B Love, Guice
WR: DJ Moore, Godwin, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Gallup R Cobb, S Miller
TE: Fant , Graham, Jarwin
DST: 49ers, Eagles

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Re: Hamilton vs Samuels

Postby A-train » Fri May 17, 2019 7:39 pm

I'd prefer Hamilton but I'm low on Samuels.
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QB: Andrew Luck, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliot, Alex Collins, D'onta Foreman, Chris Carson, James White, Kenneth Dixon
WR: Mike Williams, Chris Godwin, DJ Moore, Laquon Treadwell, Taywan Taylor, Josh Malone
TE: Eric Ebron, Hunter Henry, Adam Shaheen
D/ST: Patriots, Saints

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QB: Patrick Mahommes, Josh Rosen
RB: Royce Freeman, Nick Chubb, Phillip Lindsay, Derius Guice, Melvin Gordon
WR: DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, DJ Chark, Desean Hamilton, Laquon Treadwell, Equanimous St. Brown, James Washington
TE: Gerald Everett, Adam Shaheen, Hunter Henry
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Re: Hamilton vs Samuels

Postby Hottoddies » Fri May 17, 2019 7:49 pm

Hamilton has a greater degree of certainty for now and the future.
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Re: Hamilton vs Samuels

Postby The Red Rooster » Fri May 17, 2019 8:47 pm

Hamilton.

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Re: Hamilton vs Samuels

Postby crip7300 » Fri May 17, 2019 9:10 pm

While I like Hamilton as a player and he projects well as a slot WR with good route running skills and hands, it's hard to deny that Samuels is 2 years younger, has a significantly better athletic profile and has more draft pedigree, 2nd rounder vs 4th rounder. Also no matter how you might feel about Cam Newton he is a much better option at QB at this point than either Flacco or Lock. Samuels also had 7 TDS last season and almost 600 total yards and is a threat all over the field. I think I would take the chance on Samuels upside but I also like to swing for the fences in situations like this.
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Ryan Brady
RB AJones Chubb JRob Gurley Dillon
WR OBJ Parker Diontae Ruggs Claypool
TE Waller Cook

Team 2
12 team PPR .5 RB/WR, 1 TE
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert BigBen
RB Saquon Akers Mixon Bell DJ Gaskin Dillon
WR Juju Amari DJM Chark Parker Cooks Slayton Diontae AB
TE Kittle Hock

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Cam Darnold
RB Saquon Dillon
WR OBJ Evans Slayton Diontae Shenault
TE LThomas

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Tanny
RB Saquon Mixon Henry Akers JT Conner Gaskin
WR Juju AJB Metcalf Diontae
TE Kittle Jonnu

Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Wentz Baker Darnold Carr Love
RB Saquon Swift Akers Sony

WR Juju OBJ DJM AJB Deebo Woods
TE Kittle LThomas


Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon
WR DK DJM Juju Davis Shepard
TE LThomas

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Re: Hamilton vs Samuels

Postby zoster80 » Fri May 17, 2019 9:24 pm

crip7300 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:10 pm
While I like Hamilton as a player and he projects well as a slot WR with good route running skills and hands, it's hard to deny that Samuels is 2 years younger, has a significantly better athletic profile and has more draft pedigree, 2nd rounder vs 4th rounder. Also no matter how you might feel about Cam Newton he is a much better option at QB at this point than either Flacco or Lock. Samuels also had 7 TDS last season and almost 600 total yards and is a threat all over the field. I think I would take the chance on Samuels upside but I also like to swing for the fences in situations like this.
I’m sorry, I was talking about J Samuels, the backup RB For the Steelers.

Thank you for the insight though.
Champ '20,’18,’17 11th year
Zo Nasty -12 Teams, PPR, 26 players - Keep 20
Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, Flex, K, DST

QB: Rodgers Herbert
RB: Ekeler, D Johnson, M Gaskins, Gurley, Z Moss, T Cohen, Ito Smith, D Evans, Ingram
WR: M. Evans, D. Hopkins, Juju, K Allen, T Johnson, G Davis, Pascal, T Smith
TE: Kelce Fant,Gesicki,
DST: Colts NE
K: Butker

2021 Picks
1.8, 2.12, 3.12, 5.7, 5.8, 5.12, 6.12
______________________________________________
PLP - 12 Teams, PPR, 27 Active roster - Keep 21 -
Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, K, DST

QB: R Wilson Bridgewater,
RB: Zeke, CEH, M Sanders, Hines, Gio, S. Michel L Bell, D Evans, Justice hill, Darrel Williams, T Pollard, B Love, Guice
WR: DJ Moore, Godwin, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Gallup R Cobb, S Miller
TE: Fant , Graham, Jarwin
DST: 49ers, Eagles

2021Picks
2.1,3.11,6.11
2022Picks
1,2,3,4,5,6

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Re: Hamilton vs Samuels

Postby crip7300 » Fri May 17, 2019 10:57 pm

zoster80 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:24 pm
crip7300 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:10 pm
While I like Hamilton as a player and he projects well as a slot WR with good route running skills and hands, it's hard to deny that Samuels is 2 years younger, has a significantly better athletic profile and has more draft pedigree, 2nd rounder vs 4th rounder. Also no matter how you might feel about Cam Newton he is a much better option at QB at this point than either Flacco or Lock. Samuels also had 7 TDS last season and almost 600 total yards and is a threat all over the field. I think I would take the chance on Samuels upside but I also like to swing for the fences in situations like this.
I’m sorry, I was talking about J Samuels, the backup RB For the Steelers.

Thank you for the insight though.
oh ok, in that case I would take Hamilton lol
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Ryan Brady
RB AJones Chubb JRob Gurley Dillon
WR OBJ Parker Diontae Ruggs Claypool
TE Waller Cook

Team 2
12 team PPR .5 RB/WR, 1 TE
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Herbert BigBen
RB Saquon Akers Mixon Bell DJ Gaskin Dillon
WR Juju Amari DJM Chark Parker Cooks Slayton Diontae AB
TE Kittle Hock

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Cam Darnold
RB Saquon Dillon
WR OBJ Evans Slayton Diontae Shenault
TE LThomas

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB Herbert Tanny
RB Saquon Mixon Henry Akers JT Conner Gaskin
WR Juju AJB Metcalf Diontae
TE Kittle Jonnu

Team 5
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Wentz Baker Darnold Carr Love
RB Saquon Swift Akers Sony

WR Juju OBJ DJM AJB Deebo Woods
TE Kittle LThomas


Team 6
Bestball 12 Team
SF PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF
QB Watson Herbert TLaw
RB Saquan JT Mixon
WR DK DJM Juju Davis Shepard
TE LThomas

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Re: Hamilton vs J Samuels

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 18, 2019 12:23 am

Hamilton long term

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Re: Hamilton vs J Samuels

Postby NFL123 » Sat May 18, 2019 12:48 am

Hamilton by a bit. He will play an important role for the Broncos. Samuels although talented, needs a Connor injury to be a factor and his spot could be threatened by Snell.
12 team/.5 PPR league/ 1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, D, K

Team 1
QB: Murray Burrow, Lock
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Lindsay Mike Davis, Fournette, Perine, Wilson, Lat Murray, Hasty, Gallman, Bowden, Ballage,
WR: M Thomas, Beckham, Juju, E Sanders Shepard, Patrick, Meyers, Hamler, Duvernay,
TE: Waller Gronkowski
K: Succop
D: Rams

Team 2
QB: Wilson, Mayfield, Lock
RB: Mixon,Chubb, Dobbins Bell, Harris, J Jackson
WR: Beckham, Woods, T Higgins, Jeudy Sutton, Pittman, Edelman, Reagor, Shenault, A Brown, C Davis
TE: Fant Gronk, L Thomas
K: Zuerlein
D: Colts

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Re: Hamilton vs J Samuels

Postby Needalife » Sat May 18, 2019 11:23 am

Hamilton>>>Samuels. He's going to be a mid-to-low end WR2 or high end WR3 I feel in the near future. Unless you own Conner, it's easily Hamilton for me.
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QB: Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford
RB: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Miles Sanders, Joe Mixon, Austen Ekeler, Boston Scott, Gio Bernard, Kalen Ballage, Derrius Guice
WR: Julio Jones, Cooper Kupp, Amari Cooper, Courtland Suttion, Parris Campbell, Jamison Crowder, Denzel Mims, Bryan Edwards, JJ Arcega-Whiteside
TE: Dallas Goedert, Hunter Henry, Logan Thomas, Cole Kmet, Ian Thomas
DL: Jason Pierre-Paul
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Re: Hamilton vs J Samuels

Postby zoster80 » Sun May 19, 2019 8:38 am

So originally he said it was a straight up deal now he wants me to add a 2020 3rd which will probably be early. That’s a little much to add? I’m in a rebuild and while I have two 2020 1sts I don’t have a 2nd so I’m trying to conserve my future picks...Am I buying low enough Hamilton that the 3rd is worth it to close deal.
Champ '20,’18,’17 11th year
Zo Nasty -12 Teams, PPR, 26 players - Keep 20
Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, Flex, K, DST

QB: Rodgers Herbert
RB: Ekeler, D Johnson, M Gaskins, Gurley, Z Moss, T Cohen, Ito Smith, D Evans, Ingram
WR: M. Evans, D. Hopkins, Juju, K Allen, T Johnson, G Davis, Pascal, T Smith
TE: Kelce Fant,Gesicki,
DST: Colts NE
K: Butker

2021 Picks
1.8, 2.12, 3.12, 5.7, 5.8, 5.12, 6.12
______________________________________________
PLP - 12 Teams, PPR, 27 Active roster - Keep 21 -
Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, K, DST

QB: R Wilson Bridgewater,
RB: Zeke, CEH, M Sanders, Hines, Gio, S. Michel L Bell, D Evans, Justice hill, Darrel Williams, T Pollard, B Love, Guice
WR: DJ Moore, Godwin, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Gallup R Cobb, S Miller
TE: Fant , Graham, Jarwin
DST: 49ers, Eagles

2021Picks
2.1,3.11,6.11
2022Picks
1,2,3,4,5,6

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Re: Hamilton vs J Samuels

Postby Gronk » Sun May 19, 2019 8:48 am

I would not add a pick if I was in a rebuild.

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Re: Hamilton vs J Samuels

Postby RedonkulousRedskins » Sun May 19, 2019 8:53 am

Id take Hamilton but that being said, Samuels I have in just about every dynasty because I see great potential there, just a matter of time.


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