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Watkins value

Postby AresGodOWar » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:47 pm

With Tyreek done in KC what would you sell Watkins for ?
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
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Re: Watkins value

Postby jordanzs » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:57 pm

I am personally holding.

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Re: Watkins value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:59 pm

Top 5 pick. I won’t get it, but that’d be his price.
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Re: Watkins value

Postby Needalife » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:00 pm

I'd get out for a late first. If you are going to sell, now may be the best time to do so.
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Re: Watkins value

Postby Z$$$ » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:44 pm

Mid 1st. If KC doesn’t take a WR then the price could go up.
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Re: Watkins value

Postby pvillebiker » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:02 pm

wait dude. sammy's value is going up, even if the Chefs draft a WR or two. The longer he stays healthy, the more the narrative will default to "Sammy is the KC WR1". The one with Mahomes throwing him the ball. That's $$$ - whether it plays out all season or not.

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Re: Watkins value

Postby AresGodOWar » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:27 pm

pvillebiker wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:02 pm wait dude. sammy's value is going up, even if the Chefs draft a WR or two. The longer he stays healthy, the more the narrative will default to "Sammy is the KC WR1". The one with Mahomes throwing him the ball. That's $$$ - whether it plays out all season or not.
That's how I think , Even if KC drafts WRs with every pick Sammy is still going to be the #1 at least for this year as long as he stays healthy , I don't think anyone in this draft comes close to Sammy's talent level
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
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Re: Watkins value

Postby wingnutty » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:11 pm

i am happy i have a lot of sammy shares, lol

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Re: Watkins value

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:27 pm

Depends on how the draft goes but likely a mid 1st.

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Re: Watkins value

Postby M-Dub » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:13 am

As of right this minute, I think I’d need the 1.04. If you ask me again in 24 hours, I might be willing to take the 1.06 or 1.07. I just don’t see too many more rookies landing in situations better than Sammy’s.
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Re: Watkins value

Postby abloom » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:28 am

I'd hold and sell later for more. The only reason to sell now is if you think he won't produce as the #1 WR option in that offense. If you think he will produce hold him and let him play a few games then sell
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T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
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Re: Watkins value

Postby Oddball456 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:24 am

I have held him since he rookie year, not interested in selling now when he is in what would have to be considered one of the best situations ever, in the history of the NFL. He is 25 years old now, turns 26 in a couple of months. Entering his "prime" years. I understand health issues but if (I know a big if) he stays healthy is there anyway he doesn't put up WR1 numbers?

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Re: Watkins value

Postby Nightmares » Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:29 am

Needalife wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:00 pm I'd get out for a late first. If you are going to sell, now may be the best time to do so.
I agree. Trade now before they take AJ Brown or Metcalf.

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Re: Watkins value

Postby saw061600 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:07 am

Sent out some feelers and, in response to 1.09+ starter to current owner of Hill and Mahomes, was told "Not interested at that price. He's hurt too often." A bit of a surprise from an owner of a team that lacks WRs.

I think it likely that 50% + of the fantasy population feel the same way.
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Re: Watkins value

Postby Life of Pablo » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:32 am

He's only 25, gonna turn 26 in a couple months. He's the #1 WR in what will still likely be regarded as the #1 passing offense in the league, or top-5 if you want to be conservative. No matter what rookie they draft, there is a 0.2% chance that they just jump over Sammy on the depth chart in their first year. It's not like they're taking a bonafide stud WR with a top-10 pick, they're taking a prospective WR in the 60's or perhaps even later. The only thing that could screw up Sammy's preseason value, is if the Chiefs go out and trade for a veteran WR (which certainly is possible), or if they trade up CONSIDERABLY for a WR in the 2nd. If they just take a WR with their already existing picks in the late 2nd or 3rd, I honestly see that as a win for Sammy. You can't just assume that any WR the Chiefs draft will be an automatic slam dunk.

There's a good chance he'll be mocked in the 3rd or 4th rounds of fantasy drafts this year once we get to August. I plan on waiting for that projection to be established, and then I will start fielding offers. At which point I'll either sell, or hold if I don't like the offers.
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