Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

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Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby UATahoe » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:54 pm

I traded away:

Tyreek Hill
Eric Ebron
Tevin Coleman
Baker Mayfield

I received:

Amari Cooper
Sammy Watkins
Dak Prescott

I was ready to be rid of Hill. Love the talent but i just didnt want to put up with it anymore. This is a 1 QB league so Baker was going to be sitting behind Mahomes for me more often than not. Not ideal but i made the move. Thoughts?
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2 RB Mixon, Kamara, Melvin Gordon, Nick Chubb, Royce Freeman, Justice Hill, Boston Scott, Ito Smith
3 WR Godwin, K. Allen, A. Cooper, S. Watkins, DJ Moore, Michael Gallup, Kelvin Harmon, Martavis Bryant, Core Coleman(IR) Preston Williams(IR)
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:58 pm

I don't like the deal at all. I'm not high on Ebron but Henry is still a question mark for me until we see how he comes back and he is now your starter. Even if Mayfield sat behind Mahomes for you, his value could continue to grow and who knows what offers may have come your way for him or you just don't worry about your QB position for a long time. Coleman could go either way but I feel you gave up way too much here. Hopefully Cooper puts it together in Dallas consistently. If Hill does come back, you could argue that you could have received all 3 players for Hill straight up. To me you gave away a couple high valued players in this deal for nothing. I could totally understand waiting to move Hill however as an owner to be safe just in case.
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby UATahoe » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:00 pm

Can appreciate that for sure. I dont love it. Hill is the total wild card here for me. I believe in Amari but probably too much.
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2 RB Mixon, Kamara, Melvin Gordon, Nick Chubb, Royce Freeman, Justice Hill, Boston Scott, Ito Smith
3 WR Godwin, K. Allen, A. Cooper, S. Watkins, DJ Moore, Michael Gallup, Kelvin Harmon, Martavis Bryant, Core Coleman(IR) Preston Williams(IR)
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:02 pm

UATahoe wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:00 pm
Can appreciate that for sure. I dont love it. Hill is the total wild card here for me. I believe in Amari but probably too much.
Getting Cooper still gives you arguably a top 25 dynasty asset which is great. Hopefully you keeps trending up for you! And who knows, after the 3 PM press conference today, this deal could look much different.
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby UATahoe » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:06 pm

SMH. Wow, i didnt even see the news of the press conference. Probably should have just held on just to see.
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3 WR Godwin, K. Allen, A. Cooper, S. Watkins, DJ Moore, Michael Gallup, Kelvin Harmon, Martavis Bryant, Core Coleman(IR) Preston Williams(IR)
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:23 pm

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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby Goddard » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:25 pm

It was bad before the news broke that he's not being charged with anything and it's much worse after.

Baker >> Dak
Coleman = Sammy (I'm sure many will disagree, but I think their values are close)
Ebron+Hill >> Cooper

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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby UATahoe » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:26 pm

Completely agree. LOL
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1 QB Mahomes, Dak Prescott
2 RB Mixon, Kamara, Melvin Gordon, Nick Chubb, Royce Freeman, Justice Hill, Boston Scott, Ito Smith
3 WR Godwin, K. Allen, A. Cooper, S. Watkins, DJ Moore, Michael Gallup, Kelvin Harmon, Martavis Bryant, Core Coleman(IR) Preston Williams(IR)
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:28 pm

Very very rough deal now that the news has been announced
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WR: K. Golladay, C. Godwin, C. Ridley, M. Williams, J. Jeudy, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, C. Kirk, D. Westbrook, J. Reynolds, E. St. Brown, D. Patmon
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QB: K. Murray, J. Burrow, T. Tagovailoa, J. Luton, B. Perkins
RB: D. Swift, S. Michel, A. Mattison, R. Armstead, J. Jackson, Q. Ollison
WR: N. Harry, Mar. Brown, H. Ruggs III, M. Pittman Jr., A. Gandy-Golden, T. Johnson, G. Davis, Col. Johnson, I. Hodgins, M. Callaway, J. Thomas, Q. Davis, F. Swain
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:31 pm

Ebron = Watkins
Mayfield > Prescott
Hill + Coleman >> Cooper

You gambled on bad news at the press conference and lost. It wasn't a bad gamble, but unfortunately it didn't work out well for you. The league can still suspend Hill for a few games, but I'm guessing his dynasty value will begin rebounding now that an indefinite ban is off the table for now.
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby UATahoe » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:33 pm

Totally agree and i actually didnt even know there was any kind of news conference planned. Had i known, i would have held. I wouldnt have kept the deal in place if they came out and arrested him right after the trade was accepted. Just wouldnt have been right but thats just me.
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby Zacsby » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:30 pm

Its not pretty. But luckily your team was solid enough to take the hit and still be in good shape. Also, at least you got a considerable return. The people really kicking themselves are the ones who sold him for peanuts. Im sure there were at least a few. Lol. I wouldnt lose any sleep over it man!
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby PhillySpecial » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:40 pm

Tyreek already has two strikes against him with domestic violence and possible child abuse. There was no evidence to charge him but they believe a crime was committed. I believe a suspension is coming and I think it is only a matter of time before he is out of the league.
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby megager » Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:54 pm

Agree with @PhillySpecial above. Hill likely to get a ban, conservatively 8 weeks I think, maybe as long as Peterson .I don't live trade but Cooper could take steps next year. If he adds consistency to his ceiling you should be good
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Re: Made the move to trade Tyreek Hill, how bad is it?

Postby cazzie33 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:53 pm

megager wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:54 pm
Agree with @PhillySpecial above. Hill likely to get a ban, conservatively 8 weeks I think, maybe as long as Peterson .I don't live trade but Cooper could take steps next year. If he adds consistency to his ceiling you should be good
Difference is A.P. admission of guilt. No admission much less proof of guilt by Hill. Could be grandstanding by DA to gain public sentiment in next election. That's NEVER happened before😲

Hill will probably appeal any suspension and should get support of NFLPA unless we think it is ok to convict without evidence. We still have NO IDEA how the child's injury occurred. Should league get private info or Tyreek reveal details to THE SHIELD that reflect poorly then a suspension is definitely coming.


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