Evans or Nuk?

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Evans or Nuk?

Postby 95dent » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:40 am

Which side and how much is required to make up any difference?

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:49 am

Hopkins for me. I could see an early 2nd being added to the Evans side but I think these 2 are pretty close

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby pmart33 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:51 am

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:49 am Hopkins for me. I could see an early 2nd being added to the Evans side but I think these 2 are pretty close
This. Really wouldn't pay more than that to upgrade to Hopkins. Especially with Evans being a year younger.
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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby AlPal&Ange » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:52 am

Nuk b/c certainty around his QB play. Probably by a late first for me, but Evans owners likely wouldn't bite.

However, at this time next year I could see Evans being valued higher.

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby Bigrig24 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:56 am

Hopkins. What would you need to add to go from Evans to Hopkins will vary between owners and leagues. A late first/early 2nd.
Team 1 - 12 team PPR - 20 man roster
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2Flex

QB - Hurts, Fields
RB - Barkley, D. Swift, A.J Dillion, J. Kelley, R. Penny, J Williams, A, McFarland, M. Mack
WR - D. Adams, J Chase, J. Jeudy, D. Mims, R. Bateman, A Rodgers
TE - Kittle, K Pitts, J. Smith, L. Thomas,


Team 2 - 12 Team PPR SF BB - 22 man roster
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 SF

QB - Watson, T Lance, M Jones, C Newton
RB - M Sanders, A Gibson, M Gordon, Duke Johnson, J Kelley,
WR - C Godwin, C Ridley, T Boyd, AJ Brown, L Shenault, J Reagor, K Toney, T Marshall
TE - Z Ertz, J Smith, L Thomas, H Long

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:05 am

Hopkins = Evans + late 1st
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby abloom » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:35 am

Hopkins by ~ a late 1st/early 2nd.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:14 am

i cant stand when people say a 2nd is the gap from a top 10 player to a top 5 player. you wouldn't accept that deal so why would you suggest it? a 2nd isnt closing any gap here. a mid first might, heck even a late first if the nuk owner loves picks, but ya a 2nd is not enticing at all.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby pmart33 » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:22 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:14 am i cant stand when people say a 2nd is the gap from a top 10 player to a top 5 player. you wouldn't accept that deal so why would you suggest it? a 2nd isnt closing any gap here. a mid first might, heck even a late first if the nuk owner loves picks, but ya a 2nd is not enticing at all.
Wait. So a later first might be enough, but an early 2nd is not enticing at all?
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Starters 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Hurts Love Cousins
RB CMC Stevenson Ekeler Mostert Spiller
WR Hill Puka Aiyuk Diggs
TE Kelce

Team 2
12 Team PPR SF TE Prem
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Kyler A-Rich
RB Dobbins Hull
WR Flowers London C. Watson Mingo
TE McBride Musgrave Mayer Fant

1.01 1.03
4 2025 1sts
5 2026 1sts

Team 3
12 Team PPR SF
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Burrow Purdy Howell
RB Taylor Hall Kyren Ekeler Pollard Z. White
WR Lamb Deebo Dionte Puka M. Williams Zay Jones
TE Njoku Fant Hill

Team 4
12 Team .5 PPR SF TE Prem 1 PPR
Starters 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 2Flex-WR/RB/TE

QB Fields Watson Purdy Cousins
RB Bijan Gibbs Barkley Walker Kyren Stevenson Gibson
WR Lamb Hill Kupp Dell Diontae E. Moore Mims Pierce
TE Hockenson Goedert

2.01
3 2025 1sts
4 2026 1sts

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby Z$$$ » Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:25 am

Nuk. Mid-Late 1st
14 Team SF/TEP (1.5 PPR) 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2F **AFC Only** (7AFC, 7NFC)
QB: Herbert, Carr
RB: Mixon, D Harris, McKinnon, Moss, Spiller
WR: Hill, G Davis, Jeudy, Bateman, C Davis, Reynolds, Hardman, Pierce, Thornton
TE: Andrews, Woods

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QB: Cousins, Fields
RB: Gibbs, Singletary, Dallas, Juszczyk
WR: Lamb, Burks, G Wilson, JSN, Q Johnson, Hardman, Goodwin
TE: Dulcich, Albert O, Gray, Granson

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:17 pm

pmart33 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:22 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:14 am i cant stand when people say a 2nd is the gap from a top 10 player to a top 5 player. you wouldn't accept that deal so why would you suggest it? a 2nd isnt closing any gap here. a mid first might, heck even a late first if the nuk owner loves picks, but ya a 2nd is not enticing at all.
Wait. So a later first might be enough, but an early 2nd is not enticing at all?
that is correct. i didnt say that pick 13 is worth way less than pick 12 (it can be though for sure), but if you are sending offers you see a 2nd as a 2nd not as almost a first... nobody parting with nuk for evans and a 2 but i could see it for evans and a 1st (eve if the first happens to be late)

hope that makes sense its the art of the deal and perception more than a true value
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby abloom » Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:19 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2019 11:14 am i cant stand when people say a 2nd is the gap from a top 10 player to a top 5 player. you wouldn't accept that deal so why would you suggest it? a 2nd isnt closing any gap here. a mid first might, heck even a late first if the nuk owner loves picks, but ya a 2nd is not enticing at all.
so 1.12 does it but 2.01 doesn't?

I could certainly see parting with Nuk for an early 2nd depending on who is available at the 2nd.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:49 pm

Hopkins is more consistent, not even worth a second thought and I love Evans as much as anyone.

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby Finfansteve » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:38 pm

Why bother just keep Evans if what you have to add to the deal is uncomfortable for you you can win championships with both Evans and Nuk so why even bother inquiring unless you’re a Texans fan or something. Evans is gonna be great this year you’ll be sorry you gave up a first and Evans to acquire Nuk unless you’re a bad drafter (I know many) then by all means go get your guy but if you’re not just stand pat keep the pick and don’t worry about Nuk
Qb: Hurts, geno Smith
Rb: JT, Gibbs, Montgomery, Roschon, Z. White, Ty Chandler
Wr: AJB, JJ, Chase, waddle, DK, G Wilson, Palmer
TE: Pitts, Kincaid, Likely, Njoku

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Re: Evans or Nuk?

Postby jordanzs » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:03 pm

I have Hopkins in a league. If someone offered me a late 1st/early 2nd and Evans for Hopkins, I would decline. Unless the pick was OTC and I saw a must-have player. But that probably wouldn't happen.

I have Evans in a league, if someone offered me Hopkins for Evans and my late 1st/early 2nd, I would probably decline. If someone offered me Hopkins for Evans and a late 2nd, I would accept. But that probably won't happen.

So for me personally, I will probably be a holder on both sides. Unless an owner was really aggressive on their offers & gave me a deal I couldn't refuse.


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