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Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:34 am
by Big_J_All_Day_77
What would need to be attached to Juju to acquire Hopkins. Working a deal however the owner is unreasonable (at least in my eyes).

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:50 am
by Gator Sens
I'm guessing a mid to late 1st

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:17 am
by killer_of_giants
owning hopkins, i would want something in the range of juju + mixon (maybe slightly less), which would probably seem unreasonable to many, but hey!
my asset, my price.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:24 am
by -THE DUDE-
really depends on team needs...as a Hopkins owner i would want a solid starting RB for my particular team and even then I would really struggle with parting with him. I also have Watson so I wouldn't personally be looking to trade Hopkins unless i got a killer deal i couldn't turn down.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:47 am
by lukkynumber13
I would have zero motivation to go from Hopkins to JuJu, unless I was getting a top 2-3 pick on top. Or a pair of 2020 Firsts.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:48 pm
by Duke Nuk’em
lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:47 am I would have zero motivation to go from Hopkins to JuJu, unless I was getting a top 2-3 pick on top. Or a pair of 2020 Firsts.
Agreed. And in this draft that probably won't be enough

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:50 pm
by Stronglikebear
I prefer JuJu over Hopkins in dynasty currently. I understand I am against the grain.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:42 am
by bsacks13
lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:47 am I would have zero motivation to go from Hopkins to JuJu, unless I was getting a top 2-3 pick on top. Or a pair of 2020 Firsts.
As a nuk owner myself, I feel this same sentiment.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:46 am
by murphysxm
Stronglikebear wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:50 pm I prefer JuJu over Hopkins in dynasty currently. I understand I am against the grain.

I don't think you are against the grain, I believe you are on an island all by yourself! Hopkins is not getting moved unless you massively overpay.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:06 pm
by Duke Nuk’em
murphysxm wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:46 am
Stronglikebear wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:50 pm I prefer JuJu over Hopkins in dynasty currently. I understand I am against the grain.

I don't think you are against the grain, I believe you are on an island all by yourself! Hopkins is not getting moved unless you massively overpay.
Completely agree. And I don’t this a top pick in this draft is close to enough.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 1:11 pm
by greenbird
I moved Hopkins for Adams and Campbell. I think Hopkins, Adams, and JuJu are all about the same.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 pm
by DynastyDegenerate
I also prefer Juju by a wide margin.

Their expected production is pretty close, maybe Hopkins is 15 percent better.

I see Juju as having another 9 years of elite fantasy production. I see Hopkins with 3 or 4 more years, and about to lose value steadily as he ages. 15 percent more expected points doesn't make up for the longevity and value retention of Juju in my eyes.

Hopkins is about to go over the age cliff. Now is the time to sell. 2 years ago, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green were 27 years old at the top of the rankings. Now they are 3rd or 4th round picks because they got a few years older.

In 2 years, Juju owners will laugh at a Hopkins offer.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 3:34 pm
by lukkynumber13
Kittenmittens wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 pm I also prefer Juju by a wide margin.

Their expected production is pretty close, maybe Hopkins is 15 percent better.

I see Juju as having another 9 years of elite fantasy production. I see Hopkins with 3 or 4 more years, and about to lose value steadily as he ages. 15 percent more expected points doesn't make up for the longevity and value retention of Juju in my eyes.

Hopkins is about to go over the age cliff. Now is the time to sell. 2 years ago, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green were 27 years old at the top of the rankings. Now they are 3rd or 4th round picks because they got a few years older.

In 2 years, Juju owners will laugh at a Hopkins offer.
This is some dangerous thinking.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 5:23 pm
by DynastyDegenerate
lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 3:34 pm
Kittenmittens wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 pm I also prefer Juju by a wide margin.

Their expected production is pretty close, maybe Hopkins is 15 percent better.

I see Juju as having another 9 years of elite fantasy production. I see Hopkins with 3 or 4 more years, and about to lose value steadily as he ages. 15 percent more expected points doesn't make up for the longevity and value retention of Juju in my eyes.

Hopkins is about to go over the age cliff. Now is the time to sell. 2 years ago, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green were 27 years old at the top of the rankings. Now they are 3rd or 4th round picks because they got a few years older.

In 2 years, Juju owners will laugh at a Hopkins offer.
This is some dangerous thinking.
It's just playing the odds. The only thing that is guaranteed to happen here is Hopkins is guaranteed to lose dynasty value as he approaches and turns 30. Elite production won't change that. Even if Juju does not maintain elite production, barring a very unlikely event he will be much more valuable than Hopkins in 2 years.

Re: Juju for Hopkins

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:05 am
by Duke Nuk’em
Kittenmittens wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 pm Hopkins is about to go over the age cliff. Now is the time to sell. 2 years ago, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green were 27 years old at the top of the rankings. Now they are 3rd or 4th round picks because they got a few years older.
This is what is making Julio, AB, Green and soon Hopkins steals. I’ll happily take them in the 3rd or 4th. But I personally haven’t seen them later than the 2nd, 3rd for Green.