Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

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Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby makemeasandwich » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:57 am

Lately I've been setting my trade bait up making offers I receive on players public as such:

Needs: WR

**Jared Cook**
Offer1: Goedert, Humphries, 3.05
Offer2: Hyde, '21 1st

It's drawn the ire of a few league mates calling it "lazy" and not wanting their offers public, but I'm a little confused about their outrage, I couldn't care less if someone posted an offer I made on a player. Would you have an issue if someone in your league sold players in this manner? Important to note that the owners were told their offers were going to be placed publicly on trade bait, if they expressed discontent with that, I didn't post their offer.
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:01 pm

1. I would've accepted that offer of Cook for Hyde + 2021 1st immediately upon receiving it.
2. Yes, trade negotiations should only be shared if the two parties are both inclined to do so. I wouldn't be too happy if you aired out one of my offers without telling me.
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby Phaded » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:02 pm

If you are privately posturing to try to get more out of a deal; then go for it - however, if you are just publicly posting offers and saying "go ahead & beat this", I would be a little irritated.

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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby Paul717 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:05 pm

Interesting. I don't know if this would wake up my dormant league (in terms of trades) or not. I suspect it would make some owners hesitant to deal in the future, in my league. I guess it depends on the makeup of the league and if there is a precedent for doing this already.
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby grandmabetty » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:05 pm

I am not a fan of making offers public. I use different tactics with different GM's. Some get better offers than others cause i know they are tougher negotiators and have a better understanding of value. I also don't want other GM's to know what kind of players/positions i am targeting because if everyone knows I'm coming after a TE from you really hard they are probably going to ask for that much more if i approach them for their TE in a trade.
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby abloom » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:08 pm

You should either be accepting or declining. You shouldn't be saying, sure I'll do this if I can't find anything better.

Now its fine to hold off deciding on a deal and going out and approaching others, but I dont think you should be saying what you are getting from them specifically.

Also you may find this backfiring, what if someone offers a better player for the deal that you are asking people to beat.
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby jenkins.math » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:09 pm

I feel like doing something like this has more cons than pros. This just feels like it is going to blow up in your face at some point.
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:11 pm

id rip you a new one if you were in my league. i dont like when someone goes to the group chat to mock an offer ive made even without getting into specifics. theres no reason to do this other than the try to create a bidding war where if thats what you want just say "cook will be sold at midnight offer up"
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby makemeasandwich » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:14 pm

Phaded wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:02 pm
If you are privately posturing to try to get more out of a deal; then go for it - however, if you are just publicly posting offers and saying "go ahead & beat this", I would be a little irritated.
I'm transparent with them and tell them we're a bit far apart and I'm putting their offer up on my trade bait for future reference. The only people it really seems to piss off are the people who routinely send out bad offers.

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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby killer_of_giants » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:15 pm

makemeasandwich wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:57 am
I could care less if someone posted an offer I made on a player.
assuming you meant "couldn't", it is probably because you've never got a deal scuppered by someone setting up an auction.

i don't think it's on to tell everyone what other teams are offering for your players, that said, i'm not one that likes vetoing or forbidding things, if you did that with me, that would be the first and last time as i wouldn't consider trading anything with you anymore. if everyone reacts like that, you're doomed to overpay for the rest of your stay in that league if you want to trade.

don't ask if an action is right or wrong, just consider the reaction.

if your league mates are outraged, it's unlikely they'll to come up with other offers. is that what yu want?
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby makemeasandwich » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:16 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:11 pm
id rip you a new one if you were in my league. i dont like when someone goes to the group chat to mock an offer ive made even without getting into specifics. theres no reason to do this other than the try to create a bidding war where if thats what you want just say "cook will be sold at midnight offer up"
I don't do it in group chat, just in my trade bait and I'm not mocking their offer.

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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby makemeasandwich » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:18 pm

killer_of_giants wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:15 pm
makemeasandwich wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:57 am
I could care less if someone posted an offer I made on a player.
assuming you meant "couldn't", it is probably because you've never got a deal scuppered by someone setting up an auction.

i don't think it's on to tell everyone what other teams are offering for your players, that said, i'm not one that likes vetoing or forbidding things, if you did that with me, that would be the first and last time as i wouldn't consider trading anything with you anymore. if everyone reacts like that, you're doomed to overpay for the rest of your stay in that league if you want to trade.

don't ask if an action is right or wrong, just consider the reaction.

if your league mates are outraged, it's unlikely they'll to come up with other offers. is that what yu want?
It's literally like 2 people who were mad, was just curious what everyone thought here. The 2 people that were irritated by it are serial low ballers.

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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby abloom » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:19 pm

makemeasandwich wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:16 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:11 pm
id rip you a new one if you were in my league. i dont like when someone goes to the group chat to mock an offer ive made even without getting into specifics. theres no reason to do this other than the try to create a bidding war where if thats what you want just say "cook will be sold at midnight offer up"
I don't do it in group chat, just in my trade bait and I'm not mocking their offer.
no you pretty much are... you're saying that these offers weren't good enough for you.
Dynasty Team #1: 2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, Peterson, Armstead
WR: OBJ, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Goedert, Henry
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1.09,1.11,4.11,5.04,5.11,7.11
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12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, Ingram, S Michel, Breida, J Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Fant
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1.03, 1.06, 1.07, 3.03, 3.10, 4.01, 4.02, 5.10, 7.10
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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby makemeasandwich » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:22 pm

Paul717 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:05 pm
Interesting. I don't know if this would wake up my dormant league (in terms of trades) or not. I suspect it would make some owners hesitant to deal in the future, in my league. I guess it depends on the makeup of the league and if there is a precedent for doing this already.
No precedent for doing this in my league, just got tired of looking at my trade offers and seeing a steaming pile of horse sh*t.

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Re: Making Offers Public on Trade Bait

Postby makemeasandwich » Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:23 pm

abloom wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:19 pm
makemeasandwich wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:16 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:11 pm
id rip you a new one if you were in my league. i dont like when someone goes to the group chat to mock an offer ive made even without getting into specifics. theres no reason to do this other than the try to create a bidding war where if thats what you want just say "cook will be sold at midnight offer up"
I don't do it in group chat, just in my trade bait and I'm not mocking their offer.
no you pretty much are... you're saying that these offers weren't good enough for you.
In my opinion, mocking would be going into group chat, posting an offer w/o the other persons consent and publicly ridiculing them for offering me such a steaming pile of sh*t, which I'm not doing.


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