Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

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Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby Kmani6 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:28 pm

I'm competing this year and my team is below, but I lack a true WR1. I was considering trading Cooper, 2020 1.5, 2020 1.10, and 2x 2020 2nd's for Hopkins. Is this to much for a very competitive team?
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Dak Prescott
RB: Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Dalvin Cook
WR: Devante Adams, Mike Evans, OBJ , Keenan Allen, Terry Mclaurin, Auden Tate, C. Samuel, D. Pettis, Zach Pascal, D. Johnson, A. Miller
TE: Travis Kelce,George Kittle, Jonnu Smith

2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05
2021 Picks: 1st, 3rd

Dynasty Team 2:

16 Team, SuperFlex, PPR, .25 PPC

QB: Rodgers, Big Ben, Winston, Trubisky,
RB: Cook, Mixon,Ingram, Murray, Coleman, Hyde, Miller, Duke Johnson
WR: Golladay,A.J. Green, Landry, Shepard, Sanders, Tate, Westbrook, Fitzgerald
TE: Engram, Rudolph, Doyle

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:39 pm

I think moving Cooper hurts your WR's a bit. I personally would look to move D. Cook and a couple 1st round picks and see where that goes in getting Hopkins. Some owners are still very high on Cook.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 Roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: P. Mahomes, J. Allen
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon, D. Guice, L. Murray, R. Anderson, R. Calais
WR: K. Golladay, C. Godwin, C. Ridley, M. Williams, J. Jeudy, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, C. Kirk, D. Westbrook, J. Reynolds, E. St. Brown, D. Patmon
TE: I. Thomas, O.J. Howard, D. Njoku, G. Everett, A. Okwuegbunam, G. Olsen

2021 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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12 Team, PPR, 1.5 TE Premium, 25 Roster, 5 Taxi Squad: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex, 1 Super Flex
QB: K. Murray, J. Burrow, T. Tagovailoa, J. Luton, B. Perkins
RB: D. Swift, S. Michel, A. Mattison, R. Armstead, J. Jackson, Q. Ollison
WR: N. Harry, Mar. Brown, H. Ruggs III, M. Pittman Jr., A. Gandy-Golden, T. Johnson, G. Davis, Col. Johnson, I. Hodgins, M. Callaway, J. Thomas, Q. Davis, F. Swain
TE: N. Fant, H. Hurst, C. Herndon, T. Moss

2021 picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby joey87 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:44 pm

I would agree, I’m high on Cooper. If you are wanting a bigger WR then I would use your RB depth. Move lettuce legs Cook on

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby FuzzySignificance » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:53 pm

I offered Cooper and Bell and the guy seemed to think I was robbing him and wouldn't even bother with a counter.
12 team ppr, 1 qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 2 flex
QB: Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, Le'Veon Bell, Kerryon Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR: Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, Will Fuller, DeDe Westbrook, Robby Anderson, Marquise Goodwin, Justin Watson, Albert Wilson, Greg Dortch
TE: Travis Kelce, Vance McDonald, Kyle Rudolph, Delanie Walker, Ian Thomas, Gerald Everett

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:34 pm

FuzzySignificance wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:53 pm
I offered Cooper and Bell and the guy seemed to think I was robbing him and wouldn't even bother with a counter.
I would probably move on. That will end up being a very expensive deal to get Hopkins and it could set your team back
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QB: P. Mahomes, J. Allen
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon, D. Guice, L. Murray, R. Anderson, R. Calais
WR: K. Golladay, C. Godwin, C. Ridley, M. Williams, J. Jeudy, C. Lamb, T. Higgins, C. Kirk, D. Westbrook, J. Reynolds, E. St. Brown, D. Patmon
TE: I. Thomas, O.J. Howard, D. Njoku, G. Everett, A. Okwuegbunam, G. Olsen

2021 picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

DLF League
12 Team, PPR, 1.5 TE Premium, 25 Roster, 5 Taxi Squad: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex, 1 Super Flex
QB: K. Murray, J. Burrow, T. Tagovailoa, J. Luton, B. Perkins
RB: D. Swift, S. Michel, A. Mattison, R. Armstead, J. Jackson, Q. Ollison
WR: N. Harry, Mar. Brown, H. Ruggs III, M. Pittman Jr., A. Gandy-Golden, T. Johnson, G. Davis, Col. Johnson, I. Hodgins, M. Callaway, J. Thomas, Q. Davis, F. Swain
TE: N. Fant, H. Hurst, C. Herndon, T. Moss

2021 picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby abloom » Sat Mar 30, 2019 3:40 pm

Well first things first. Is the guy rebuilding or is he competing. If it's a rebuild the trade #1 looked pretty good. If competing then you need more than Cooper and Bell imo. I wouldn't sell Hopkins for that in a 10 team league
Dynasty Team #1: 2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wentz, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, Peterson, Armstead
WR: OBJ, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Goedert, Henry
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1.03 (Taylor),4.11 (Everett),5.11 (Bowden),7.11
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Dynasty Team #2: 2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Gurley, Ingram, S Michel, Thompson, J Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Edwards, Funchess
TE: Fant, Hurst
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2021 picks, 1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,7
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10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:10 pm

Why chase Hopkins?

Go after Diggs, AJG, Thielen, or Hilton for a stud

Kupp, Edelman, or Marvin Jones are good targets for depth.
TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
BREES, Tua, Jimmy G
COOK/JACOBS/BELL, Dobbins, Swift, Gurley, Dillon, D Washington, Gio, Gallman
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Jeudy, Hilton, Ruggs, Edelman, Wims
KITTLE, Waller, Gesicki, Akins
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. The Bosa Bros, D-Buck, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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DARNOLD, Herbert, J Love, Cam, Brissett, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON/CHUBB, Gordon, D Freeman, Gallman, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/THIELEN, Lamb, Hollywood, Landry, Edelman
KITTLE/ENGRAM, Ian Thomas, Akins, D Walker
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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby gogobradyarm » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:24 pm

I like the trade for a 10 team league.
12 Team - PPR - 29man (2 IR) - 6pt PPTD- 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 Flex - 1 TE

QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Daniel Jones
RB: Chubb, Cook, Aaron Jones, Dobbins, Akers, Kerryon, Mattison
WR: Nuk, Julio, Hill, Adams, Diggs, A.J. Brown, Jeudy, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Corey Davis, Sterling Shepard, Dante Pettis, Hakeem Butler
TE: Henry, Engram, Goedert, Njoku

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby smallxl » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:08 pm

Agree with many here that it's simply foolish to go after Hopkins when he won't even consider bell and cooper. I've repeatedly stated that most owners far over value studs. You can't give up your whole team for Hopkins. Diggs and Golladay are great targets. And quite frankly I wouldn't even trade cooper and bell for Hopkins
22-man, 12-team, 1 pt-PPR; Start 1-2RB; 3-4 WR; 1-2 TE

TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby JoshuaGordon_9 » Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:27 pm

If I can sell Cooper plus a few draft picks for a stud like Hopkins, I'm all in. Cooper to me is overrated.
2018 finish: WR # 18,
2017 finish: WR # 45,
2016 finish: WR # 15
In PPR formats he has not finished above WR 15 in 3 years, yet hes going off the board at WR 10? ADP of 21? I get that new life in Dallas should help him, and hes younger, but hes a high end WR2 in my book.

2 BIG games in Dallas 18/397/5 = 87.7 FPTS! 43.85 per game
remaining 6: 35/327/1 = 73.7 FPS 10.5 pts per game.

Weeks 9-16: Cooper was the 6th overall WR. Hopkins was 9th overall. Hopkins also had his bye during this time, and Cooper had 11 more fantasy points during these weeks.

Not trying to completely bash him, as those BOOM games are monsters, and more than likely week winning performances just that I would for sure sell him to get Hopkins.
Also, not sure on how you know where your 2020 1st is, but if it's that late, I'm good pairing it.
Team 1: 12T PPR Salary Cap $230 - Max 3 year deals.
(Years/$$)
QB(1) Stafford -2/4
WR(1-5) Sutton 1/15, Boyd 1/21, Jones 1/8, Cooks 1/15, Washington 2/4, M.Williams 2/6, T. Smith 2/2, Butler 2/1
RB(1-5) Barkley 2/53, Henry 1/22, Chubb 2/5, Cohen 1/10, Duke 1/30
TE(1-5) I Thomas 2/1
K(1) N/A

Team 2: 12T PPR, 0.25 PPC, TE premium, SF
QB(1-2) Rodgers, Ta. Hill, Brissett, Luck :cry:
WR(1-6) Metcalf, Kirk, Snead, Byrd, Allison
RB(1-6) Zeke, Henry, KJ, Guice, Cohen, Duke, AP, McKissic
TE(1-6) Ebron, Higbee, McDonald, Witten, Shaheen
Picks: 2020: 2.06, 3.04, 4.04, 4.11, 5.04

Team 3: 10T :roll: PPR - Takeover
QB(1) Cousins, Newton
WR(3-4) M. Williams, Sutton, Kirk, C. Samuel, Washington, P. Williams,
RB(2-3) Chubb, KJ, Duke, Miller, Bonnafon
TE(1-2) Njoku, Disly, Smith jr, I. Thomas
2020: 1.03, 1.06, 1.10, 2.03, 3.01, 3.03, 4.03, 4.10

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:30 am

That,s funny because I actually had AJG, then moved him :( I traded AJG + OJ Howard for George Kittle and 2 2020 2nds. I liked the deal because I think the niners offense is gonna get better next year and kittle will be valued extremely high, whereas AJG has been so injury prone the last 3 years + getting older, and although I love OJ Howard arians doesn’t use TEs that much/haven’t seen a full season from him yet. Anyways I might try targeting T.Y. Hilton and diggs as I may be able to get them cheaper than guys like Thielan/golladay (my league specifically). If not I could rework the Hopkins deals. To put it in perspective I offered the same deal to the Adams/MT/and OBJ owners and they all refused.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Dak Prescott
RB: Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Dalvin Cook
WR: Devante Adams, Mike Evans, OBJ , Keenan Allen, Terry Mclaurin, Auden Tate, C. Samuel, D. Pettis, Zach Pascal, D. Johnson, A. Miller
TE: Travis Kelce,George Kittle, Jonnu Smith

2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05
2021 Picks: 1st, 3rd

Dynasty Team 2:

16 Team, SuperFlex, PPR, .25 PPC

QB: Rodgers, Big Ben, Winston, Trubisky,
RB: Cook, Mixon,Ingram, Murray, Coleman, Hyde, Miller, Duke Johnson
WR: Golladay,A.J. Green, Landry, Shepard, Sanders, Tate, Westbrook, Fitzgerald
TE: Engram, Rudolph, Doyle

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby pokerface40 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:47 am

As said above, you should really be looking to move some of your RB depth for a WR. Try Gurley for Nuk or OBJ straight up

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Re: Is there such thing as too much for Hopkins?

Postby briank » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:08 pm

Kmani6 wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:28 pm
I'm competing this year and my team is below, but I lack a true WR1. I was considering trading Cooper, 2020 1.5, 2020 1.10, and 2x 2020 2nd's for Hopkins. Is this to much for a very competitive team?
I’d do that. I recently traded Cooper and Michel for Hopkins.
2019 Champion 12 team PPR 1-2QB 2-5RB 2-5WR 1-4TE start 9
QB: Mayfield, Allen, Winston, Newton, Fitzpatrick, Keenum
RB: Mixon, A. Jones, Jamaal Williams, Bernard, Pollard, AP
WR: Hopkins, Thomas, DJ Moore, Jeffery, Preston Williams, Slayton, Perriman
TE: Ertz, Cook, Hurst, Knox

24 team 2 copy PPR TE 1.5 PPFD 1-2QB 1-7RB 1-7WR 1-7TE start 10
QB: Mahomes, Watson, Tannehill, Roethlisberger, Fitzpatrick, Flacco
RB: Mixon, Carson, Murray, Jamaal Williams, Hines, Barber, Washington, Harris
WR: Evans, Woods, Cooks, Fuller, Miller, Diontae Johnson, Ross, Reynolds, Perriman, Edwards
TE: Kittle, Brate

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QB: Mahomes, Murray, Burrow, Trubisky
RB: Jacobs, Dobbins, Swift, Dillon, Bernard, Lewis
WR: Diggs, Moore, AJ Brown, Marquis Brown, Cooks, Ruggs, Davis, Harmon, Reynolds, Boykin, Meyers
TE: Engram, Njoku, Irv Smith, Everett, Hurst


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