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I sent the Kamara owner the following trade:
Give: LF, Thielan, Jimmy G and 1.06
Receive: Kamara, 2.03 and 2.10
I realize Kamara is arguably the best dynasty asset and figured at least I’d have to modify my offer in some way. He responds with this trade:
Give: LF, Thielan, Sony and 1.05
Receive: Kamara, Lat. Murray, 2.03, 3.03 and 6.03
As I stated I know Kamara is a huge asset, but his reply seems a bit too much.
Which trade is closest for Kamara’s value? Should I just bail out if he’s wanting that much?
His only other main pieces I’d be interested in are JuJu and 1.10.
Thanks!
Kamara Offer
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Re: Kamara Offer
The counteroffer is too much for Kamara in my opinion. I own Kamara, so I can't really say what I would pay for him, but that seems like too much.
Re: Kamara Offer
Would my original offer came close?
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Re: Kamara Offer
As of right now he hasn’t rejected my offer. Probably seeing if I’ll bite on his over pay
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Re: Kamara Offer
The original offer seems like an overpay to me as well but if Kamara is your guy, go get him baby! Fournette's value could be way different this time next year. So to me, this comes down to how you feel about LF.
Re: Kamara Offer
I'd just take out all the fluff you both have added to your trades...Ask him what it would take to get Kamara. LF+Thielen+1.06 seems like a decent offer but honestly a lot of people are down on LF as a long term prospect and Thielen is getting up there in age and had a laughable second half of the season so I can understand why he wouldn't accept that. Maybe swap out Thielen for Michel but that seems liek a lot to give if you don't have a lot of depth.
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Re: Kamara Offer
I would pass on the counter offer and hold firm at your original offer.
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Re: Kamara Offer
Your initial offer is not enough. It's a bunch of old pieces and an RB - Fournette - on the decline
If I am just answering your question then the counter offer is actually closer IMO....and if you value Kamara much more than Michel as I do I don't think it is bad...overpay maybe but that is what it takes to get a top 3 dynasty asset.
If I am just answering your question then the counter offer is actually closer IMO....and if you value Kamara much more than Michel as I do I don't think it is bad...overpay maybe but that is what it takes to get a top 3 dynasty asset.
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Re: Kamara Offer
Dynasty Axiom: You gotta overpay for the upper crust elite assets, which Kamara is. He's top 3-5 in most dynasty ranks.
You initiated the offer so you had to be prepared to overpay.
You initiated the offer so you had to be prepared to overpay.
Re: Kamara Offer
I agree. I value Kamara more than what you offered.smallxl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:52 pm Your initial offer is not enough. It's a bunch of old pieces and an RB - Fournette - on the decline
If I am just answering your question then the counter offer is actually closer IMO....and if you value Kamara much more than Michel as I do I don't think it is bad...overpay maybe but that is what it takes to get a top 3 dynasty asset.
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Re: Kamara Offer
I think a fair trade lies somewhere between the two offers. If i'm the kamara owner I'm not sure i want anything to do with Jimmy G so i would think about maybe sweetening the deal somewhat on that. But the 2nd offer is over paying for Kamara. Maybe try a guy like Cooks or Kupp or Pettis? I'm not real high on LF anymore so if i'm the Kamara owner i would need to be way overpaid but if i am you i would probably overpay a little.Z$$$ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:38 am Team 1 in sig.
I sent the Kamara owner the following trade:
Give: LF, Thielan, Jimmy G and 1.06
Receive: Kamara, 2.03 and 2.10
I realize Kamara is arguably the best dynasty asset and figured at least I’d have to modify my offer in some way. He responds with this trade:
Give: LF, Thielan, Sony and 1.05
Receive: Kamara, Lat. Murray, 2.03, 3.03 and 6.03
As I stated I know Kamara is a huge asset, but his reply seems a bit too much.
Which trade is closest for Kamara’s value? Should I just bail out if he’s wanting that much?
His only other main pieces I’d be interested in are JuJu and 1.10.
Thanks!
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Re: Kamara Offer
Give: LF, Thielan, Jimmy G and 1.06
Receive: Kamara, 2.03 and 2.10
GQ--27 year old QB (not old in those standards)
Thielen--will be 29--can be considered old
1.06-- not old...
LF--24 years old
so, not a bunch of old pieces
kinda depends who the other owner's starting QB ... the problem is that all the players you are offering currently have depressed values..
LF and GQ coming off some injuries (LF seems always dinged in some way) and Thielen numbers went down at the end of the season and that is what everyone remembers...
maybe counter with
GQ, Thielen, Sony and 1.05 for Kamara and Latavius
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Re: Kamara Offer
Yup. This.smallxl wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:52 pm Your initial offer is not enough. It's a bunch of old pieces and an RB - Fournette - on the decline
If I am just answering your question then the counter offer is actually closer IMO....and if you value Kamara much more than Michel as I do I don't think it is bad...overpay maybe but that is what it takes to get a top 3 dynasty asset.
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