give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

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give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby zarathustra » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:38 pm

add something, take something away?
12 team, Superflex, TE Premium, Half PPR
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE, 1 Superflex

QB: Jackson, Allen, G. Smith
RB: Cook, Henry, Elliott, Montgomery, Carter, Robinson, Mattison, McKissic, Murray, R. Jones, Breida
WR: Jefferson, A. St. Brown, Sutton, Mooney, Dortch, Zaccheaus, D.Carter, Swain, Reagor, A. Rodgers, Atwell, Harry
TE: L. Thomas, H. Henry, J. Smith, Arnold, Dulcich
Taxi: K. Ingram, Virgil

2020: 4-9
2021: 9-5 (3rd)
2022: 7-2

Draft Picks:
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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby RB6 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:40 pm

With your top 3 RBs I’d rather keep Ebron as I expect Howard to age poorly.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby zarathustra » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:46 pm

This is his roster. does anything make sense?
Andrew Luck
James Conner
David Johnson
Amari Cooper
Sammy Watkins
Trey Burton
Damien Williams
Derek Carr
Matt Ryan
Doug Martin
Jordan Howard
Jaylen Samuels
Mark Ingram
Marquise Goodwin
Phillip Dorsett
Emmanuel Sanders
Demaryius Thomas
Randall Cobb
Dallas Goedert
Tyler Eifert

also has 1.01, 2.01, 3.01, 4.01, 5.01...and all 2020, 2021 picks.
12 team, Superflex, TE Premium, Half PPR
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE, 1 Superflex

QB: Jackson, Allen, G. Smith
RB: Cook, Henry, Elliott, Montgomery, Carter, Robinson, Mattison, McKissic, Murray, R. Jones, Breida
WR: Jefferson, A. St. Brown, Sutton, Mooney, Dortch, Zaccheaus, D.Carter, Swain, Reagor, A. Rodgers, Atwell, Harry
TE: L. Thomas, H. Henry, J. Smith, Arnold, Dulcich
Taxi: K. Ingram, Virgil

2020: 4-9
2021: 9-5 (3rd)
2022: 7-2

Draft Picks:
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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:56 pm

I dont see a ton that makes sense for Ebron but still pretty low on him

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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby footballwookie » Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:02 am

id take this easy. ebron will never put up numbers like he did this past season again. Age poorly? Jordan Howard is 24 years old.... been in the NFL for 3 seasons. Even if he does age poorly it won't be for another 6 years
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QB-R.Wilson, J.Winston
RB-A.Jones,M.Gordon,DavidJohnson,M.Ingram,Lev Bell,K.Juszczyk,T. Sermon
WR-K.Allen, J.Jefferson, DJ Moore, B.Aiyuk, R.Anderson,J.Reynolds, T.Smith,M.Williams,J.Gordon
TE- N.Fant,H.Hurst,M.Gesicki,T.Eifert

Team 2
QB- L. Jackson,R. Fitz,N. Foles
RB- A.Jones,L.Fournette,N. Hines, F.Gore, J.Howard, Jamal Williams, ETN
WR- J.Jones, J Jefferson, DK Metcalf, Kenny Golladay, W.Fuller, T.Boyd, M.Gallup,M.Hardman ,S.Shepard, J.Gordon, J.Ross,J.Hurd(TS)
TE- H.Henry, H. Hurst, I.Thomas, T.Eifert

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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby RB6 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:01 am

footballwookie wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:02 am id take this easy. ebron will never put up numbers like he did this past season again. Age poorly? Jordan Howard is 24 years old.... been in the NFL for 3 seasons. Even if he does age poorly it won't be for another 6 years
His numbers have declined every year, he doesn’t catch passes and he’s being shopped. Not good signs for his future.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby chalorpas » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:35 am

I actually like the deal. I’ve never been super high on Howard but from what I’ve read, several teams have approached the bears to trade for Howard. I don’t think the fact that he may be traded is a bad thing. Sure, he could end up in a worse situation but he could also end up in a better situation. Goedert is a nice add-in too.

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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby EAGLES » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:23 am

I’d rather have Howard/Goedert. As others have said, Howard could land in a good spot. Ertz’s contract is ending soon and Goedert will be stepping in. Let’s also not forget about Doyle coming back who will undoubtedly take targets from Ebron plus I’m sure the Colts will be adding another WR form this year’s class. More targets to be taken.

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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby zarathustra » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:27 am

EAGLES wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:23 am I’d rather have Howard/Goedert. As others have said, Howard could land in a good spot. Ertz’s contract is ending soon and Goedert will be stepping in. Let’s also not forget about Doyle coming back who will undoubtedly take targets from Ebron plus I’m sure the Colts will be adding another WR form this year’s class. More targets to be taken.
What about ebron for howard, goedert, 2.01
12 team, Superflex, TE Premium, Half PPR
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE, 1 Superflex

QB: Jackson, Allen, G. Smith
RB: Cook, Henry, Elliott, Montgomery, Carter, Robinson, Mattison, McKissic, Murray, R. Jones, Breida
WR: Jefferson, A. St. Brown, Sutton, Mooney, Dortch, Zaccheaus, D.Carter, Swain, Reagor, A. Rodgers, Atwell, Harry
TE: L. Thomas, H. Henry, J. Smith, Arnold, Dulcich
Taxi: K. Ingram, Virgil

2020: 4-9
2021: 9-5 (3rd)
2022: 7-2

Draft Picks:
2023 4th
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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby jwb32 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:54 am

Ebron >= Howard
Goedert >>>> ..........
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby My BallZach Ertz » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:25 pm

jwb32 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:54 am Ebron >= Howard
Goedert >>>> ..........
x2

I like Ebron in his new landing spot but I would take this deal based on value alone. Howard will be a starting running back somewhere for years to come and that is very valuable in fantasy football.
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RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Mattison, Wilkins, Snell
WR: T. Hill, Golladay, Ridley, Lamb, Gabriel Davis, Van Jefferson
TE: Kittle, Ebron

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RB: Akers, Hall, Sanders, Spiller, Hines, White, Wilson, Z. White
WR: DK, Chase, Woods, Shenault, Gallup, G. Wilson, Hardman, W. Robinson
TE: Henry, Shultz

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QB: Tannehill, Mac Jones
RB: Gibson, Etienne, Mitchell, Hines, Moss
WR: Jefferson, DJ Moore, K. Allen, Cooks, Jeudy, Gage
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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby footballwookie » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:07 pm

RB6 wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:01 am
footballwookie wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:02 am id take this easy. ebron will never put up numbers like he did this past season again. Age poorly? Jordan Howard is 24 years old.... been in the NFL for 3 seasons. Even if he does age poorly it won't be for another 6 years
His numbers have declined every year, he doesn’t catch passes and he’s being shopped. Not good signs for his future.
howard ran for 1,300+yds his rookie season 1,100+yds his second season that decline is not really a problem for me. The new scheme nagy brought to CHI is to blame for his decline in 18'-19' he does not fit. Being shopped is not bad when multiple teams are interested. If you watch howard he can catch passes he did not have a drop problem this year they just have cohen to catch passes.
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Team 1
QB-R.Wilson, J.Winston
RB-A.Jones,M.Gordon,DavidJohnson,M.Ingram,Lev Bell,K.Juszczyk,T. Sermon
WR-K.Allen, J.Jefferson, DJ Moore, B.Aiyuk, R.Anderson,J.Reynolds, T.Smith,M.Williams,J.Gordon
TE- N.Fant,H.Hurst,M.Gesicki,T.Eifert

Team 2
QB- L. Jackson,R. Fitz,N. Foles
RB- A.Jones,L.Fournette,N. Hines, F.Gore, J.Howard, Jamal Williams, ETN
WR- J.Jones, J Jefferson, DK Metcalf, Kenny Golladay, W.Fuller, T.Boyd, M.Gallup,M.Hardman ,S.Shepard, J.Gordon, J.Ross,J.Hurd(TS)
TE- H.Henry, H. Hurst, I.Thomas, T.Eifert

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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby M-Dub » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:16 pm

I’d try to get Jaylen Samuels instead of Howard, if possible.
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RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby Adam_172 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:56 pm

Howard is a consistent 1,000 yard rusher. Am I the only one who sees this as a massively lopsided trade?

Also, when Ertz leaves PHI in 2 years time Goedert could easily be a top 5 TE.
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WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
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Re: give Ebron, receive Jordan Howard, goedert

Postby keebs3 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:28 pm

I'm on the Howard/Goedert side easily.
Howard is a nice buy low and Goedert can be elite.

I'd take this in a second for Ebron if anyone in my leagues would do it.
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