Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
Which side do you prefer?
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
Keenan very easily
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RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
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1.04, 2.04, 4.04
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
Allen with the pick. Tough to pass on JuJu but I think the Allen package is solid.
Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
I like Allen side as well.
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
I can't believe this is a question and I'm not as high on Allen as most. Give me the 1.01 and Allen
Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
I'm going Allen and the pick, but I think it's closer than some are making it out to be.
Juju is 4 1/2 years younger and I expect him to age better than Allen. I expect Juju to start outproducing Allen, but let's assume they give you similar production. So this comes down to, starting 3 to 5 years from now, whether about 5 years of number 1 WR production is worth the 1.01 in a weak draft. I don't think it is, primarily because I wouldn't want to wait that long to start seeing a return on the investment. At the same time, it's not an unreasonable ask. If someone came asking for my share of Juju, I'd demand the same.
Additionally, I like to roster players that maintain their trade value. Fair or not, Allen has the stigma that he's going to break down earlier than the typical receiver. So while he may maintain his value on the playing field, I get the impression 1-2 years down the road as his age creeps up he's going to be a tough player to move.
Juju is 4 1/2 years younger and I expect him to age better than Allen. I expect Juju to start outproducing Allen, but let's assume they give you similar production. So this comes down to, starting 3 to 5 years from now, whether about 5 years of number 1 WR production is worth the 1.01 in a weak draft. I don't think it is, primarily because I wouldn't want to wait that long to start seeing a return on the investment. At the same time, it's not an unreasonable ask. If someone came asking for my share of Juju, I'd demand the same.
Additionally, I like to roster players that maintain their trade value. Fair or not, Allen has the stigma that he's going to break down earlier than the typical receiver. So while he may maintain his value on the playing field, I get the impression 1-2 years down the road as his age creeps up he's going to be a tough player to move.
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
I think I like Allen straight up over JuJu, but they are very close in value & I could see some taking JuJu.
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
Juju>Allen easily
But not by the 1.1 even without a top guy
But not by the 1.1 even without a top guy
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
Keenan side by A LOT
I almost see juju = Allen as it is so that +1.1 is insane
I almost see juju = Allen as it is so that +1.1 is insane
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
I’m with this guy. It almost seems like you have an unrealistic expectation on what you can get for Juju. I wouldn’t suggest letting greed get in the way of a long standing trade relationship with a very reliable, easy going, responsive and might I add handsome trade partner.Favrezilla wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 8:40 am Keenan side by A LOT
I almost see juju = Allen as it is so that +1.1 is insane
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
Call it rookie fever but I’m taking my chances with DK over juju str8.
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
You call it rookie fever, I call it crazy. Lol. (No offense meant)
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Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
I also would rather have KA and the 1.01 but I'm pretty surprised by all the comments. I would take at the very minimum the 1.03 +Ka for me to move Juju if I had him. I love KA as much as the next guy and stuck with him through thick and thin the past few years but Juju is 4 1/2 years younger that just had a better season that KA's best season from a year ago. Now he doesn't have to deal with AB taking up 140+ targets every year. If you ask me Juju should be in discussion with the other top 5 WR's and deserves to be in that tier based on age alone. He has no where to go but up from here at his age. KA's value is officially at that point where unless he turns in a WR1 overall season his value will continue to decline.
Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
I know its crazyjetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:56 amYou call it rookie fever, I call it crazy. Lol. (No offense meant)
Everyone said i was crazy selling Bell for 1.1 last off season..... DK's comp is Andre Johnson. He will be worth 2 Juju's in 365 days from now. heard it here 1st
Re: Juju vs Keenan Allen + 1.01
The issue with this is that no ones worth 2 Jujus now, not even Barkley.PercyR1 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:38 amI know its crazyjetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:56 amYou call it rookie fever, I call it crazy. Lol. (No offense meant)
Everyone said i was crazy selling Bell for 1.1 last off season..... DK's comp is Andre Johnson. He will be worth 2 Juju's in 365 days from now. heard it here 1st
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