1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty *revised
1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty *revised
Team in signature. I have 1.02 and 1.03. I have been offered Spiller and Hardesty for 1.03. I know Spiller was a high selection last year but will he ever live up to it? I know it was just his first year but not a whole lot to love about it. What do you think of this trade?
Last edited by Warhawks on Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
I'd take it in two seconds. Great offer. I'm considering offering the 1.05 for Spiller straight up.Warhawks wrote:Team in signature. I have 1.02 and 1.03. I have been offered Spiller and Hardesty for 1.03. I know Spiller was a high selection last year but will he ever live up to it? I know it was just his first year but not a whole lot to love about it. What do you think of this trade?
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Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
I would accept that ASAP.
10 team PPR league. 26 man rosters. Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 RB/WR, 2 TE, K, DEF
QB - Tua Tagovailoa, Davis Mills, Sam Darnold, Kyle Trask, Jordan Love, Drew Lock, Jarrett Stidham
RB - D'Andre Swift, Breece Hall, Zamir White, Kyren Williams, Nyheim Hines
WR - DK Metcalf, Mike Williams, Juju Smith-Schuster, Elijah Moore, Brandon Aiyuk, DJ Chark, Nico Collins, Laviska Shenault Jr., Rashid Shaheed, Robert Woods
TE - Kyle Pitts, Irv Smith Jr, Daniel Bellinger, Will Dissly, Cade Otton, Brevin Jordan
QB - Tua Tagovailoa, Davis Mills, Sam Darnold, Kyle Trask, Jordan Love, Drew Lock, Jarrett Stidham
RB - D'Andre Swift, Breece Hall, Zamir White, Kyren Williams, Nyheim Hines
WR - DK Metcalf, Mike Williams, Juju Smith-Schuster, Elijah Moore, Brandon Aiyuk, DJ Chark, Nico Collins, Laviska Shenault Jr., Rashid Shaheed, Robert Woods
TE - Kyle Pitts, Irv Smith Jr, Daniel Bellinger, Will Dissly, Cade Otton, Brevin Jordan
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Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
If ingram was in a better situation I'd say hold onto it, but he's basically in an RBBC situation, like spiller, so I think their values are roughly equal and with the added value of hardesty, I'd take it.
I would also rather have spiller than a 1.05 all day long. I think he's better than Williams and Leshoure to begin with, and given their situations? Spiller's situation is no worse, and probably a little better.
I would also rather have spiller than a 1.05 all day long. I think he's better than Williams and Leshoure to begin with, and given their situations? Spiller's situation is no worse, and probably a little better.
12 team 1 ppr 6 pt all tds
1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 rb/wr 1 te 1k
qb Ryan, Vick, nassib, Barkley
RB DMC, Gore, Sporles, Stacy, Hillman, Moreno,
WR aj green,welker, Britt, Blackmon, DeMary
TE Davis, Cook, Housler, Allen
1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 rb/wr 1 te 1k
qb Ryan, Vick, nassib, Barkley
RB DMC, Gore, Sporles, Stacy, Hillman, Moreno,
WR aj green,welker, Britt, Blackmon, DeMary
TE Davis, Cook, Housler, Allen
Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
I'm sure I'm missing something, but doesn't spiller play for the same team, with the same players, with the same system, and with the same coach who didn't play him last year. I think there is substantial risk here, where as if you use this pick for Delone Carter or Daniel Thomas you might end up with a better fantasy player.
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Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
This is the first time I am seeing those players as picks @ the 1.3. The 1.3 is between AJ Green and Julio Jones and I wouldn't consider anyone else. I think the trade offers you great value in players who have been highly invested in by their teams. I would accept quickly.sbowers9 wrote:I'm sure I'm missing something, but doesn't spiller play for the same team, with the same players, with the same system, and with the same coach who didn't play him last year. I think there is substantial risk here, where as if you use this pick for Delone Carter or Daniel Thomas you might end up with a better fantasy player.
Team 1
12 team, 1/2 ppr 1 qb, 2 rbs, 3 wr, 1 flex, 1 te
QBs-Brees,Luck,Bridgewater
RBs- LeVeon,Ingram,R. Freeman,Thompson,Riddick,Conner,Walton,J. Jackson,Dixon
WRs- Evans,A Rob,Parker,Hurns,Sutton,Pettis,Moncrief,Treadwell,Sanu,Tavon,Dorsett,Carroo
TEs- Gronk,Kittle,Butt
Team 2
12 team 1 qb, 2rbs,v 3wrs, 1te
Qbs- Brees,Cam,Cousins,Jackson
Rbs- Gurley,Zeke,Kamara,McCaffery,Hunt,Shady
Wrs-A. Brown,Evans,C. Davis,Watkins,Goodwin,Woods,Washington,Treadwell,Jordy
Te- Gronk,Kittle,ASJ
12 team, 1/2 ppr 1 qb, 2 rbs, 3 wr, 1 flex, 1 te
QBs-Brees,Luck,Bridgewater
RBs- LeVeon,Ingram,R. Freeman,Thompson,Riddick,Conner,Walton,J. Jackson,Dixon
WRs- Evans,A Rob,Parker,Hurns,Sutton,Pettis,Moncrief,Treadwell,Sanu,Tavon,Dorsett,Carroo
TEs- Gronk,Kittle,Butt
Team 2
12 team 1 qb, 2rbs,v 3wrs, 1te
Qbs- Brees,Cam,Cousins,Jackson
Rbs- Gurley,Zeke,Kamara,McCaffery,Hunt,Shady
Wrs-A. Brown,Evans,C. Davis,Watkins,Goodwin,Woods,Washington,Treadwell,Jordy
Te- Gronk,Kittle,ASJ
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Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
It says 1.03 not 2.03sbowers9 wrote:I'm sure I'm missing something, but doesn't spiller play for the same team, with the same players, with the same system, and with the same coach who didn't play him last year. I think there is substantial risk here, where as if you use this pick for Delone Carter or Daniel Thomas you might end up with a better fantasy player.
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10 team $250 cap, 0.5 ppr- QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, flex
QB- Brady ($18/2yrs),Ponder ($5/1yr)
RB- CJ ($25/3yrs), AP($25/2yrs), Spiller ($15/2yrs), Martin ($10/4yrs), L.James($2/4yrs)
WR- Dem Thomas ($41/1yr), Nicks ($20/3yrs), Fitzgerald ($20/2yrs), Tampa Mike ($18/2yrs), Jeffery ($6/3yrs), V.Brown($5/1yr)
TE- Graham ($15/2yrs), Brandon Myers ($1/1yr), Dennis Pitta ($1/1yr)
Picks- 1.1, 1.2, 1.4, 1.5, 1.9, 2.9
12 team ppr, QB, RB, WR, TE, 4 flexes
QB- Arod, Fitz, Gabbert
RB- Lynch, Spiller, Ridley, Hunter, Gerhart, Goodson, Benson
WR- Fitz, White, Britt, Maclin, Vjax, Little, Jean, Jenkins, Shipley, Easley, Edelman, Gettis, A.Holmes, Lockette, Morgan, R.Wallace
TE- V.Davis, Stocker, J.Thomas, DJ Williams
10 team $250 cap, 0.5 ppr- QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, flex
QB- Brady ($18/2yrs),Ponder ($5/1yr)
RB- CJ ($25/3yrs), AP($25/2yrs), Spiller ($15/2yrs), Martin ($10/4yrs), L.James($2/4yrs)
WR- Dem Thomas ($41/1yr), Nicks ($20/3yrs), Fitzgerald ($20/2yrs), Tampa Mike ($18/2yrs), Jeffery ($6/3yrs), V.Brown($5/1yr)
TE- Graham ($15/2yrs), Brandon Myers ($1/1yr), Dennis Pitta ($1/1yr)
Picks- 1.1, 1.2, 1.4, 1.5, 1.9, 2.9
12 team ppr, QB, RB, WR, TE, 4 flexes
QB- Arod, Fitz, Gabbert
RB- Lynch, Spiller, Ridley, Hunter, Gerhart, Goodson, Benson
WR- Fitz, White, Britt, Maclin, Vjax, Little, Jean, Jenkins, Shipley, Easley, Edelman, Gettis, A.Holmes, Lockette, Morgan, R.Wallace
TE- V.Davis, Stocker, J.Thomas, DJ Williams
Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
Team Canada wrote:It says 1.03 not 2.03sbowers9 wrote:I'm sure I'm missing something, but doesn't spiller play for the same team, with the same players, with the same system, and with the same coach who didn't play him last year. I think there is substantial risk here, where as if you use this pick for Delone Carter or Daniel Thomas you might end up with a better fantasy player.
Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
Make the trade. You are getting two players who have the potential of both ending up their teams #1 RBs by 2012 at the latest.
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Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
I have zero faith in hardest ever doing anything in this league and Spiller has shown he is still years away from producing. I'd rather the 1.3
Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
Based on what? The coach using Fred Jackson as the #1 for all of his rookie season and barely letting Spiller touch the football? This is commonplace in the NFL. But fantasy owners have ZERO patience when an RB doesn't start in their rookie year. Let's look for a moment at several of the top RBs, shall we?Mangelo wrote:I have zero faith in hardest ever doing anything in this league and Spiller has shown he is still years away from producing. I'd rather the 1.3
AP, CJ424, Foster, Rice, Mendy, Charles, McCoy, MJD
I think we can safely say these are the top 8 RBs in the NFL. How many of them started and produced during their rookie season? One (AP). Two others (CJ and MJD) were in shared backfield and both performed well in the secondary role. The other 5 produced very little and your analysis would have had you casting them aside. Let's throw some others into the mix: Turner, Gore, DMC...
Now let's look at some other RBs who were thrown right into the #1 role: Moreno, Mathews, Best, Forte... I don't think it is any coincidence that most of these guys failed to live up to expectations their first year in the league.
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Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
Ok, he has sent another offer.
Spiller, Maclin and an unamed IDP at the moment
for 1.03 and Manningham
I think I like this one
Spiller, Maclin and an unamed IDP at the moment
for 1.03 and Manningham
I think I like this one
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Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty
You sure he sent this as a counter?? I don't know about the IDP part but I think this is 10x a better offer than 1.03 for Spiller and HardestyWarhawks wrote:Ok, he has sent another offer.
Spiller, Maclin and an unamed IDP at the moment
for 1.03 and Manningham
I think I like this one
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10 team $250 cap, 0.5 ppr- QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, flex
QB- Brady ($18/2yrs),Ponder ($5/1yr)
RB- CJ ($25/3yrs), AP($25/2yrs), Spiller ($15/2yrs), Martin ($10/4yrs), L.James($2/4yrs)
WR- Dem Thomas ($41/1yr), Nicks ($20/3yrs), Fitzgerald ($20/2yrs), Tampa Mike ($18/2yrs), Jeffery ($6/3yrs), V.Brown($5/1yr)
TE- Graham ($15/2yrs), Brandon Myers ($1/1yr), Dennis Pitta ($1/1yr)
Picks- 1.1, 1.2, 1.4, 1.5, 1.9, 2.9
12 team ppr, QB, RB, WR, TE, 4 flexes
QB- Arod, Fitz, Gabbert
RB- Lynch, Spiller, Ridley, Hunter, Gerhart, Goodson, Benson
WR- Fitz, White, Britt, Maclin, Vjax, Little, Jean, Jenkins, Shipley, Easley, Edelman, Gettis, A.Holmes, Lockette, Morgan, R.Wallace
TE- V.Davis, Stocker, J.Thomas, DJ Williams
10 team $250 cap, 0.5 ppr- QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, flex
QB- Brady ($18/2yrs),Ponder ($5/1yr)
RB- CJ ($25/3yrs), AP($25/2yrs), Spiller ($15/2yrs), Martin ($10/4yrs), L.James($2/4yrs)
WR- Dem Thomas ($41/1yr), Nicks ($20/3yrs), Fitzgerald ($20/2yrs), Tampa Mike ($18/2yrs), Jeffery ($6/3yrs), V.Brown($5/1yr)
TE- Graham ($15/2yrs), Brandon Myers ($1/1yr), Dennis Pitta ($1/1yr)
Picks- 1.1, 1.2, 1.4, 1.5, 1.9, 2.9
12 team ppr, QB, RB, WR, TE, 4 flexes
QB- Arod, Fitz, Gabbert
RB- Lynch, Spiller, Ridley, Hunter, Gerhart, Goodson, Benson
WR- Fitz, White, Britt, Maclin, Vjax, Little, Jean, Jenkins, Shipley, Easley, Edelman, Gettis, A.Holmes, Lockette, Morgan, R.Wallace
TE- V.Davis, Stocker, J.Thomas, DJ Williams
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Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty *revised
depends who the idp is obv but I love that
12 team 1 ppr 6 pt all tds
1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 rb/wr 1 te 1k
qb Ryan, Vick, nassib, Barkley
RB DMC, Gore, Sporles, Stacy, Hillman, Moreno,
WR aj green,welker, Britt, Blackmon, DeMary
TE Davis, Cook, Housler, Allen
1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 rb/wr 1 te 1k
qb Ryan, Vick, nassib, Barkley
RB DMC, Gore, Sporles, Stacy, Hillman, Moreno,
WR aj green,welker, Britt, Blackmon, DeMary
TE Davis, Cook, Housler, Allen
Re: 1.03 for Spiller & Hardesty *revised
The IDP doesn't matter...this is in your favor without it...
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