OBJ for Luck 2qb update: Trade Completed

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Which side in 2qb?

Poll ended at Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:13 am

Luck+
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80%
Beckham
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Total votes: 15

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OBJ for Luck 2qb update: Trade Completed

Postby fantasyhermit » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:13 am

Thanks for the responses all. I took the offer. I improved my QBs without spending a QB, which should give me enough ammo to try and use one of those qbs to upgrade again.
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12 team SF PPR/2PPR TE Prem, .5 ppc
Q-SF-R-W-F-F-F-F-T-T
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Fitz, Flacco, Lock
RB: DJ, Michel, Jacobs, Royce, Lewis, Bruce Anderson, Gus, Warren
WR: AB, Amari, Kupp, Miller, Agholor, John Brown, Enunwa, Foster, Wilson, Preston Williams
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Davis, Dissly, Knox


Team 2:
Q-SF-R-R-W-W-F-F-T-T-D-K-IDP-IDP PPR
QB: Mahomes, Trubisky, Darnold, Bridgewater
RB: Zeke, Kamara, Mack, Penny, Gore, Gus, Ballage, Armstead
WR: MT, DJ Moore, Kupp, Miller, Mike Williams, Foster, Westbrook, Preston Williams
TE: Gesicki, Hooper, Sternberger, Knox, Oliver, Moreau
Def: Chi
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IDP: Bosa, LVE, Flowers

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:15 am

Never played SF but seems like Luck would be a huge piece to get, but I don't know the values of none QB's at all in this type of league format
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QB: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Mecole Hardman, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby BucFanJKE » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:55 am

I would want a better piece than Snead on the Luck side to trade away Odell even in a 2 QB league. The gap isn't huge for me, but it's more than Snead.
Team 1- 2018 Champ, 2019 2nd
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 3R, 3W, 1T, 1WRT, 1WT)
QB- Wentz, Watson, Darnold
RB- Zeke, Mixon, Ingram, Dam. Williams, R. Freeman, Pollard
WR- OBJ, Evans, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Crowder
TE- Henry, OJ Howard, Irv Smith, Knox
2020 Picks: 1.04, 1.05, 2.01, 2.09

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PPR (1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 2WRT)
QB- Wilson, Brees
RB- Kamara, Sanders, Guice, Penny
WR- Adams, Godwin, OBJ, Juju, Cobb, Westbrook, C. Davis, Isabella
TE- Njoku, Knox

Team 3- 2019 Champ
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QB- Brees, Wentz
RB- CMC, Zeke, Gordon, Sanders
WR- OBJ, Evans, Thielen, Gallup, Landry, Edelman, Isabella, AB
TE- Kelce, Dissly

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QB: Dak, Baker
RB: CMC, Saquon, Guice, Henderson, R. Freeman, Duke Johnson
WR: Adams, DJ Moore, AJB, Diggs, Juju, Harry, D. Johnson, Isabella, JJAW
TE: Andrews, Henry, Irv Smith, Knox, Herndon, Oliver
2020 Picks: 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 2.01

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby myndflyte » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:58 am

BucFanJKE wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:55 am
I would want a better piece than Snead on the Luck side to trade away Odell even in a 2 QB league. The gap isn't huge for me, but it's more than Snead.
I agree with this. I think it's close but I'd want something better than Snead.
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QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

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QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:00 am

You don't need Snead. In a 2QB league, and based on your roster, I'd rather have Luck than OBJ, BUT, since the other owner reached out to you and offered Luck+, I would ask for a better piece than Snead.
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QB - Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, Derrius Guice, Raheem Mostert, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR - DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Robert Woods, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Parris Campbell, Anthony Miller, John Ross
TE - George Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Mike Gesicki, Will Dissly, Dawson Knox
K - Matt Gay
DL - Joey Bosa, DeForest Buckner, Cameron Heyward, Robert Quinn
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DB - John Johnson III, Logan Ryan, Shawn Williams, Kevin Byard, Kevin King

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby RB6 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:00 am

In a 2QB Luck is worth more than OBJ. So, anything on top of Luck is gravy. Though I'd ask for a 3rd instead of Snead. If that doesn't work, I'd simply take the original offer.
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QB: Watson, Wilson, Tannehill, Lock, Grier
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Pascal, S. Sims
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Boone, Gaskin
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Higbee
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

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QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Adams, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, A. Miller, Perriman, Sims, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, ESB
RB: Zeke, Kamara, Ingram, Mostert, Pollard, Darwin, Armstead, De. Washington, R. Anderson, Homer
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

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QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Carr, Mullens, Stick
RB: Fournette, KJ, Breida, Hines, D. Freeman, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Adams
WR: MT, Allen, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, G. Tate, Crowder, A. Tate, Pascal, Hamilton, S. Sims, ESB
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am

Haven't played superflex thinking about venturing into it next season but I have a hard time thinking luck is worth more than obj straight up like some people are saying. From superflex rankings I've seen besides mahomes and rodgers the qbs usually start going after pick 17 or so. So that would put luck what right around 17-23. Obj is worth more than that I would think but like I said don't play superflex. Obj is still a top 10 asset without a doubt

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am

Haven't played superflex thinking about venturing into it next season but I have a hard time thinking luck is worth more than obj straight up like some people are saying. From superflex rankings I've seen besides mahomes and rodgers the qbs usually start going after pick 17 or so. So that would put luck what right around 17-23. Obj is worth more than that I would think but like I said don't play superflex. Obj is still a top 10 asset without a doubt

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:32 am

Luck > Beckham in 2QB
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Tyler Lockett
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce, Dawson Knox | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:33 am

embe5291 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am
Haven't played superflex thinking about venturing into it next season but I have a hard time thinking luck is worth more than obj straight up like some people are saying. From superflex rankings I've seen besides mahomes and rodgers the qbs usually start going after pick 17 or so. So that would put luck what right around 17-23. Obj is worth more than that I would think but like I said don't play superflex. Obj is still a top 10 asset without a doubt
The only people who rank top-tier QBs in the late 2nd round of a startup superflex draft are people who have never played superflex. Also, the importance and value of QBs in 2QB >> superflex >> 1QB. Luck >> Beckham in 2QB.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Tyler Lockett
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce, Dawson Knox | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby moishetreats » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:04 am

Let's be 100% clear (if it's not already): 2QB leagues and Superflex leagues are NOT the same.

10-team, 2QB league: Luck >> OBJ. Easily.
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10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex

QB: Rodgers, Wilson, Wentz, Brissett
RB: Gurley, Gordon, Mixon, Edwards
WR: Hill, Cooper, Hilton, Edelman, Anderson, Slayton, Lazard, Arcega-Whiteside, Harmon, Meyers, S Miller
TE: Kelce, Henry, Herndon, Goedert, Jarwin, Walker, Alie-Cox, Moreau

2020: 3rd, 4thx2, 5thx3
2021: 2ndx2, 3rd, 5thx2



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Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex/ best ball

QB: Stafford ($36 through 2022), Garappolo (5/20), Brissett (1/21), Rivers (11/20)
RB: Barkley (38/22) A Jones (10/22), Mixon (30/20), Lindsay (11/21), Ja Williams (3/20)
WR: Cooper (28/20), Diggs (19/21), Allen (29/21), AJ Brown (7/23), R Anderson (3/21), C Davis (20/21)
TE: Ertz (22/21), Goedert (8/22)
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby fantasyhermit » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:33 am

Thanks for all the responses folks. Seems a mixed bag leaning towards Luck.

I accepted the offer, and am now just waiting for the commish to execute.
Team 1:
12 team SF PPR/2PPR TE Prem, .5 ppc
Q-SF-R-W-F-F-F-F-T-T
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Fitz, Flacco, Lock
RB: DJ, Michel, Jacobs, Royce, Lewis, Bruce Anderson, Gus, Warren
WR: AB, Amari, Kupp, Miller, Agholor, John Brown, Enunwa, Foster, Wilson, Preston Williams
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Davis, Dissly, Knox


Team 2:
Q-SF-R-R-W-W-F-F-T-T-D-K-IDP-IDP PPR
QB: Mahomes, Trubisky, Darnold, Bridgewater
RB: Zeke, Kamara, Mack, Penny, Gore, Gus, Ballage, Armstead
WR: MT, DJ Moore, Kupp, Miller, Mike Williams, Foster, Westbrook, Preston Williams
TE: Gesicki, Hooper, Sternberger, Knox, Oliver, Moreau
Def: Chi
K: Elliot
IDP: Bosa, LVE, Flowers

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby JDogil12 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:40 am

You cant look at rankings for SF because most analysts dont have much experience with the format. In saying that, Luck=OBJ but your roster probably should lean Luck

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:19 pm

embe5291 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am
Haven't played superflex thinking about venturing into it next season but I have a hard time thinking luck is worth more than obj straight up like some people are saying. From superflex rankings I've seen besides mahomes and rodgers the qbs usually start going after pick 17 or so. So that would put luck what right around 17-23. Obj is worth more than that I would think but like I said don't play superflex. Obj is still a top 10 asset without a doubt
There is a big difference between a SF league and a 2QB league. This is a 2QB league, not SF. QB's are valued higher in 2QB leagues than in SF leagues.

The reasoning for this is that in a SF league you can start 2 QB's, but you don't HAVE to. In a 2QB league, you HAVE TO start 2 QB's.

If you are thinking about venturing into it next season, then you really need to start doing some major research and soon. Too many people that are new to those leagues make the mistake of not wanting to overvalue QB's, and then they end up vastly undervaluing them.

Luck is worth more than OBJ in a 2QB. To be honest, I don't think I've ever not taken a QB with my first two picks.
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QB - Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady
RB - Christian McCaffrey, Chris Carson, Derrius Guice, Raheem Mostert, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR - DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Robert Woods, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Parris Campbell, Anthony Miller, John Ross
TE - George Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Mike Gesicki, Will Dissly, Dawson Knox
K - Matt Gay
DL - Joey Bosa, DeForest Buckner, Cameron Heyward, Robert Quinn
LB - Darius Leonard, Lavonte David, Dre Greenlaw, Matt Milano, Telvin Smith
DB - John Johnson III, Logan Ryan, Shawn Williams, Kevin Byard, Kevin King

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:23 pm

This is easily Luck, anyone saying otherwise hasn't played SF or 2QB before. As someone suggested though, I would try to swap out Snead for a 3rd. Snead is worthless.
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