Is Tyler Lockett a hold or a sell this offseason?
How much would it take for you to sell?
Which numbers do you think he will put up next year?
Tyler Lockett
Re: Tyler Lockett
He's a pretty big regression candidate for me so I'd be looking to sell but honestly I'm not sure what you can get for him. I'd probably try to include him in package for an upgrade.
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Re: Tyler Lockett
I would sell if the price is right no question
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Re: Tyler Lockett
Regression in his efficiency is coming, but so too is regression in SEA's run-to-pass ratio. I'd need a late 1st to sell Lockett.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Tyler Lockett
I might be inclined to buy in some cases since his name doesn't bring with it a lot of value.
12 Team PPR - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd ‘19 3rd ‘20 5th ‘21 3rd ‘22 7th ‘23 1st
Start- QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/Flex/K/D -All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DK Metcalf, DaVante Adams, DHop, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Sutton, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 3.11, 4.03
2025 picks 3,3,3,3,4,4
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Start- QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/Flex/K/D -All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DK Metcalf, DaVante Adams, DHop, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Sutton, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 3.11, 4.03
2025 picks 3,3,3,3,4,4
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Re: Tyler Lockett
If I am the owner, I want a late first, as the buyer, given the abundance at the WR position, a high second would be what I would offer. He is and never will be more than a WR2 in that offense and talent and given the WR ahead of him (Thomas, Hopkins, etc)
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
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QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
Re: Tyler Lockett
I agree with this. The dude caught 10 TDs on 57 receptions... Man I wish Julio could do that for me!
Assuming it's a standard format league, I'd want a mid-late 1st for him or better yet use him in a package to upgrade elsewhere.
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12-Team, 22 man Standard | QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: T.Brady, K.Murray, R.Wilson
RB: D.Henry, N.Chubb, A.Ekeler, D.Harris, J.K.Dobbins, A.Mattison, M.Davis, G.Edwards
WR: D.Adams, C.Godwin, A.Cooper, J.Chase, A.J.Brown, J.Smith-Schuster, M.Gallup
TE: T.Kelce, T.J. Hockenson, I.Smith
K: N.Folk DST: Ravens
Taxi: T.Badie, J.Ferguson, S.Connor
2023 picks: 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd
2024 picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd
2025 picks: 3rd, 3rd
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12-Team, 25 man 0.5 PPR | QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, Flex, S.Flex, K, DST
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson, M.Jones, T.Lance, J.Love, J.Garoppolo
RB: S.Barkley, A.Gibson, T.Etienne, B.Robinson, K.Harris
WR: C.Godwin, C.Sutton, T.McLaurin, D.Samuel, J.Chase, D.Smith, G.Wilson, A.Pierce
TE: M.Andrews, R.Tonyan, E.Engram
K: J.Tucker | DST: Broncos
Taxi: J.Palmer, D.Bell, T.Ebner, J.Ford
2023 picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd
2024 picks: 1st, 2nd,2nd, 2nd, 2nd
2025 picks: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd
12-Team, 22 man Standard | QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: T.Brady, K.Murray, R.Wilson
RB: D.Henry, N.Chubb, A.Ekeler, D.Harris, J.K.Dobbins, A.Mattison, M.Davis, G.Edwards
WR: D.Adams, C.Godwin, A.Cooper, J.Chase, A.J.Brown, J.Smith-Schuster, M.Gallup
TE: T.Kelce, T.J. Hockenson, I.Smith
K: N.Folk DST: Ravens
Taxi: T.Badie, J.Ferguson, S.Connor
2023 picks: 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd
2024 picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd
2025 picks: 3rd, 3rd
Team 2:
12-Team, 25 man 0.5 PPR | QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, Flex, S.Flex, K, DST
QB: L.Jackson, D.Watson, M.Jones, T.Lance, J.Love, J.Garoppolo
RB: S.Barkley, A.Gibson, T.Etienne, B.Robinson, K.Harris
WR: C.Godwin, C.Sutton, T.McLaurin, D.Samuel, J.Chase, D.Smith, G.Wilson, A.Pierce
TE: M.Andrews, R.Tonyan, E.Engram
K: J.Tucker | DST: Broncos
Taxi: J.Palmer, D.Bell, T.Ebner, J.Ford
2023 picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd
2024 picks: 1st, 2nd,2nd, 2nd, 2nd
2025 picks: 2nd, 3rd, 3rd
Re: Tyler Lockett
Mid first. I think Seattle will balance out their pass/run % and that Lockett surpasses Baldwin.I see no reason why he can’t match/exceed what he did this season.
Re: Tyler Lockett
I'd like to know if anyone has ever had someone approach them about trading for Lockett. What did they offer? If I ever bring up Lockett in a trade offer I get laughed at. I can't even get a second rounder. No one looks at him like a serious WR2 or better. No one
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Re: Tyler Lockett
Definitely a sell high candidate.
Superflex, Full PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 3flex 1 Sflx
QB: Dak, Wentz, Daniel Jones, Nick Mullens
RB: Royce Freeman, Penny, Carson, M. Brown, Foreman,
WR: Evans, Pettis, Metcalf, Harry, Mclaurin, Harmon, D.J. Chark, Agholor, Quinn, Gabriel, MVS, Justin Watson, Kirkwood, Cobb
TE: Fant, RSJ, Dan Arnold, Gerald Everett
Picks 2020: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
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QB: Brady, Kyler Murray, Flacco
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, AP, Chris Warren, Bruce Anderson,
WR: Evans, Adams, AJ Green, Miller, Allison, DeMarcus Robinson, Patrick, Kirkwood, Hurd
TE: OJ Howard, Dissly, Waller
2020 picks: 2, 3, 4
QB: Dak, Wentz, Daniel Jones, Nick Mullens
RB: Royce Freeman, Penny, Carson, M. Brown, Foreman,
WR: Evans, Pettis, Metcalf, Harry, Mclaurin, Harmon, D.J. Chark, Agholor, Quinn, Gabriel, MVS, Justin Watson, Kirkwood, Cobb
TE: Fant, RSJ, Dan Arnold, Gerald Everett
Picks 2020: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
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QB: Brady, Kyler Murray, Flacco
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, AP, Chris Warren, Bruce Anderson,
WR: Evans, Adams, AJ Green, Miller, Allison, DeMarcus Robinson, Patrick, Kirkwood, Hurd
TE: OJ Howard, Dissly, Waller
2020 picks: 2, 3, 4
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Re: Tyler Lockett
This is exactly why I would be buying him up cheap. He is still undervalued I believe.RAB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:25 pm I'd like to know if anyone has ever had someone approach them about trading for Lockett. What did they offer? If I ever bring up Lockett in a trade offer I get laughed at. I can't even get a second rounder. No one looks at him like a serious WR2 or better. No one
12 Team PPR - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd ‘19 3rd ‘20 5th ‘21 3rd ‘22 7th ‘23 1st
Start- QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/Flex/K/D -All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Team 2-
12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DK Metcalf, DaVante Adams, DHop, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Sutton, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 3.11, 4.03
2025 picks 3,3,3,3,4,4
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Team 3
Start- QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/Flex/K/D -All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Team 2-
12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DK Metcalf, DaVante Adams, DHop, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Sutton, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 3.11, 4.03
2025 picks 3,3,3,3,4,4
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Team 3
Re: Tyler Lockett
Because he finished as WR16 in ppr formats but he did that on the back of insane efficiency and high TD rate. Maybe he is THAT good but most likely it was a fluke year which means that his outlook is 2019 needs to be more in line with what an expected production from his target count was this year or you have to project his targets will go up to offset the regression in efficiency which would be reasonable (juju did it this year) but the problem is the Seahawks seem just content to run the ball 30+ times a game so I don't see his targets going up.RAB wrote: ↑Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:25 pm I'd like to know if anyone has ever had someone approach them about trading for Lockett. What did they offer? If I ever bring up Lockett in a trade offer I get laughed at. I can't even get a second rounder. No one looks at him like a serious WR2 or better. No one
he had a perfect passer rating when targeted on the entire year, that's a PFF record. If you look at all the WR's from 10-24 only 2 Wr's had less than 107 targets....Ridley at 92 and Lockett at 71. That many targets is more in line with players finishing in the WR36 range.
Re: Tyler Lockett
So, he finished WR16, and his target count more typically would net him WR36 numbers. This looks an awful lot like framing up a floor and ceiling to me, maybe? So that’s good WR2 to low end WR3/flex guy. This is about where most people value him I think.
For me, in my sig league I’m kinda interested in packaging one of my other WRs so I can keep him, I don’t expect much trade interest. (I can keep 4 of obj juju Landry Godwin and lockett)
Now to actually answer OP question: is he a sell high or buy low? I don’t see much reason to sell him right now. There’s just no value there for a guy with a top 16 finish, even if it’s a one off. Obviously there’s other factors, for instance in my league it might end up being prudent to take whatever I can get, etc. As far as what to buy him for, I really think it’s a good year to spend a 2nd on him.
For me, in my sig league I’m kinda interested in packaging one of my other WRs so I can keep him, I don’t expect much trade interest. (I can keep 4 of obj juju Landry Godwin and lockett)
Now to actually answer OP question: is he a sell high or buy low? I don’t see much reason to sell him right now. There’s just no value there for a guy with a top 16 finish, even if it’s a one off. Obviously there’s other factors, for instance in my league it might end up being prudent to take whatever I can get, etc. As far as what to buy him for, I really think it’s a good year to spend a 2nd on him.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
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