Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

What would you do?

Stay young and build around these RBs
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Give up potential for 2-3 years of Stud WRs
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Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby tbbuc5.dw » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:21 am

I have a team that just made the playoffs, and was knocked out in the second round. Getting an offer from a team looking to sell both J. Jones and A. Brown. Generally this is a good time to buy vets but I'm not sure I'm ready to compete just yet with my roster. Any advice would be grateful. 14 teams 8 Starters 2 QB superflex no other min or max. Full PPR, .25 PPC
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Barkley, Guice, Kerryon, Mike Davis
Amari, C. Kirk, C. Godwin, Fuller, Stills, Tre'quan Smith
Hooper, Herndon, Geisicki

I do have a lot more players that I just don't feel are even worth typing but give me a little depth.

He wants Guice/Kerryon/1.11/2.11/T. Williams/D. Cain for AB/J.Jones

RBs are pretty hard to get in my league, and making this deal leaves me with basically just barkley. What do you guys think?

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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:29 am

Id do it purely because thats fantastic value on those 2 players. If u can assemble a team around the big 3 that can compete go for it. Otherwise flip antonio brown and or julio again and I bet you'll be able to get more than what that guy is asking for
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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby myndflyte » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:32 am

Before I read what the actual trade was, I assumed in involved Barkley. I agree with embe, take the trade and flip at least one of those receivers to get back an RB.
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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:41 am

embe5291 wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:29 am Id do it purely because thats fantastic value on those 2 players. If u can assemble a team around the big 3 that can compete go for it. Otherwise flip antonio brown and or julio again and I bet you'll be able to get more than what that guy is asking for
I disagree - I don't think the market for guys like AB or Julio is that strong. Those are players who both are on the edge of a cliff, and I doubt you see 2-3 seasons of sustained production from both (or either for that matter). Julio will be 30, and AB 31. Look at Jordy Nelson, he became irrelevant at age 32. There is no way he is going to be able to flip either Julio or AB for more than he paid.

I also don't think that this is 'fantastic value'. KJ was a mid/late first this past draft and Guice was the unanimous 1.2. This is three 1st, a 2nd, and two prospects for both.

FWIW I oppose this trade mostly because you would have absolutely no RB depth if you pulled the trigger, and be in a horrible position by next offseason. If you went after just one or the other, it would make more sense. No reason to add two aging WR's.
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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby Goddard » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:45 am

I'd stay put for now. With ppc, I think you'd be overpaying. If you can get it done with just one of the RBs and substitute the other with a WR, then I think it makes more sense and makes you an instant contender.

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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby tbbuc5.dw » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:53 am

Goddard wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:45 am I'd stay put for now. With ppc, I think you'd be overpaying. If you can get it done with just one of the RBs and substitute the other with a WR, then I think it makes more sense and makes you an instant contender.
Yeah I was initially only approached about Guice, and then was sent that offer, I agree I don't want 2 WRs that can only depreciate in value. But if I swapped out say Kerryon for Kirk or Godwin you think that would be a good deal?

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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby Goddard » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:57 am

tbbuc5.dw wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:53 am
Goddard wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:45 am I'd stay put for now. With ppc, I think you'd be overpaying. If you can get it done with just one of the RBs and substitute the other with a WR, then I think it makes more sense and makes you an instant contender.
Yeah I was initially only approached about Guice, and then was sent that offer, I agree I don't want 2 WRs that can only depreciate in value. But if I swapped out say Kerryon for Kirk or Godwin you think that would be a good deal?
I think it would be worth it.

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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby tbbuc5.dw » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:39 pm

Thanks guys I appreciate the help. let me know if you have a thread you'd like my opinion about.

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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby ravn88 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:31 pm

Goddard wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:57 am
tbbuc5.dw wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:53 am
Goddard wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:45 am I'd stay put for now. With ppc, I think you'd be overpaying. If you can get it done with just one of the RBs and substitute the other with a WR, then I think it makes more sense and makes you an instant contender.
Yeah I was initially only approached about Guice, and then was sent that offer, I agree I don't want 2 WRs that can only depreciate in value. But if I swapped out say Kerryon for Kirk or Godwin you think that would be a good deal?
I think it would be worth it.
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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby moishetreats » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:34 pm

I'm confused either by the original post or by the comments.

You can start 0 RBs, according to the original post. So, positional scarcity is entirely irrelevant.

Even with the 0.25 PPC scoring, both Brown and Jones each averaged 3.0+ more points than KJ. Look, I like KJ. And I like Guice. And I am low on both Julio and AB compared to most. But, without positional relevance, I think it is a very safe bet that Julio and AB outperform the RBs over the next couple of years.

Let's also be honest: Guice is still all hype, and KJ is not yet a proven stud.

Given the names involved, the throw-in players and picks don't make much of a difference.

(Also, if there are no positional mins or maxes, then why do you have three TEs?)
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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby BradysBunch » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:05 pm

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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby skip » Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:00 pm

Dirty Mike&the Boys wrote: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:41 am Guice was the unanimous 1.2.
I don't agree with this. He was a distant third in my rankings and the injury is being ignored as though it has no impact. I'd be selling him if someone truly believed his value remained flat and they were in your position, believing he was the "unanimous" #2.
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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby vixen » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:01 pm

i play in a 12 team .25ppc league (must start 1RB, can start up to 3) and i can relate to the difficulty in acquiring RBs...i can't even imagine what a 14 team league would be like...
i think you can win it all with Antonio and Julio on your roster...that will obviously come at a cost...getting 2 WRs that are declining in value (right or wrong)...
you could always try to dummy down the offer...
with all the drama surrounding Antonio, perhaps you can use it to send Guice and 2nd for Antonio...tell him that Antonio has only done well with Big Ben so far and you don't know where he is going to end up...if that guys really wants out of Antonio..maybe he takes it...
otherwise, you have to decide if you want to get older and go for the $$$...



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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby collbey » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:06 am

I don't like trading for both AJ & Julio but would see if can do a lesser deal for one of them.

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Re: Buy Stud WRs or Keep Promising RBs???

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:21 am

I have a rule of not trading for WRs over 26 and RBs over 24 but I wouldn't pass up Julio and AB for that..

I mean KJ looked good but was hurt a lot and who knows what Det does , Guice is said to be a future stud but he is only a 2 down back and already missed a year.

Edit- You get Julio , AB to go with Barkley and your other WRs you are a insta competitor , You might need to move some pieces for a nice buy low RB2 though , Try to stay young on the 2nd RB though you have a lot of WR trade bait , I would look to sell high on Cooper.
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