Moving McCaffrey

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Moving McCaffrey

Postby Weber27 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:56 pm

I have been rebuilding this team for the past 2 years and finally made the playoffs and finished 3rd. If I had better TE play or AJ Green would have been healthy for the 2nd round of playoffs I could have won it all.

Looking at my roster what moves could I make to take me over the top?

I am currently in trade talks an owner Trading away - CMC, AJ Green and Marlon Mack - Getting back - Nick Chubb and Hopkins. Would this be a trade worth making to boost my WRs, while also keeping my RBs strong with Barkley, Chubb and Kerryon?
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:04 pm

Part of me wants to say stay put because I think CMC is the best piece here. However, it would bring your team more balance and youth and I like the idea of selling AJG while you still can and selling Mack high. You can get Hopkins and still have a great trio of RB, so go for it.

CMC >= Hopkins
Mack and AJG < Chubb

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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby Titans95 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:16 pm

I say either drop Mack or drop AJG from your side and the deal is more fair.

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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby Weber27 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:19 pm

Titans95 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:16 pm I say either drop Mack or drop AJG from your side and the deal is more fair.
Ya I tried without Mack and it was turned down. I added mack to sweeten the deal. Maybe add draft picks and remove Mack?
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby Weber27 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:26 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:04 pm Part of me wants to say stay put because I think CMC is the best piece here. However, it would bring your team more balance and youth and I like the idea of selling AJG while you still can and selling Mack high. You can get Hopkins and still have a great trio of RB, so go for it.

CMC >= Hopkins
Mack and AJG < Chubb
I agree, CMC is the best piece, but I think Hopkins might be the best WR in the league. I also think Mack could be a huge loss if he remains the starter, but his value could be gone if Bell or Ingram or someone signs there. So it's a risk. I just want to be more complete. I feel like I relied on my RBs and Mahomes all year and only getting production out of juju and sometimes a flyer would get me points. Tough call!
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby Titans95 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:50 pm

Weber27 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:26 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:04 pm Part of me wants to say stay put because I think CMC is the best piece here. However, it would bring your team more balance and youth and I like the idea of selling AJG while you still can and selling Mack high. You can get Hopkins and still have a great trio of RB, so go for it.

CMC >= Hopkins
Mack and AJG < Chubb
I agree, CMC is the best piece, but I think Hopkins might be the best WR in the league. I also think Mack could be a huge loss if he remains the starter, but his value could be gone if Bell or Ingram or someone signs there. So it's a risk. I just want to be more complete. I feel like I relied on my RBs and Mahomes all year and only getting production out of juju and sometimes a flyer would get me points. Tough call!
I just don't think getting rid of the RB1 and RB2 is a good idea, whats wrong with riding your RB's to fantasy championships? CMC and Saquon score way more points per game than Dhop and both are 4 years younger and have the ideal skillset to be amazing RB for very long time.

What RB's do the Adams and MT owners have?

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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby keebs3 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:25 pm

I disagree that CMC is the best piece here. I'd take Nuk straight up regardless of roster. He had a great year but I expect regression. Getting Chubb back for an ageing and often injured AJG and an RB that might not even be the starter next year makes it an easy one for me.
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby skip » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:26 am

McCaffery is easily the best piece here but it wouldn't surprise me if Chubb is the second best piece by some time next season. There is just something about the trade that would make me want to hold out for more
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:03 am

skip wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:26 am McCaffery is easily the best piece here but it wouldn't surprise me if Chubb is the second best piece by some time next season. There is just something about the trade that would make me want to hold out for more
You have CMC over Hopkins? Not arguing, but you say "easily", and most would argue that CMC is easily the best piece over Hopkins, unless you mean specifically on the CMC side.
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby skip » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:04 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:03 am
skip wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:26 am McCaffery is easily the best piece here but it wouldn't surprise me if Chubb is the second best piece by some time next season. There is just something about the trade that would make me want to hold out for more
You have CMC over Hopkins? Not arguing, but you say "easily", and most would argue that CMC is easily the best piece over Hopkins, unless you mean specifically on the CMC side.
Essentially matched his reception total but with the yardage and TD opportunities as an RB, CMC is well ahead of Hopkins so yes... Easily. And to put it into perspective, Hopkins is having his best season as a pro and yet is still trailing McCaffery by 70 points. Before the question is asked if I think McCaffery can repeat his numbers - yes, he can. And don't look now, but the #1 RB discussion isn't just Barkley vs Gurley...
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby ajf235 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:05 am

keebs3 wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:25 pm I disagree that CMC is the best piece here. I'd take Nuk straight up regardless of roster. He had a great year but I expect regression. Getting Chubb back for an ageing and often injured AJG and an RB that might not even be the starter next year makes it an easy one for me.
What makes you expect regression for CMC? He’s only been getting his monster workload/TD totals in the second half of the season, he’s 22, was a top 10 Pick and is tied to a ageing QB who the coaching staff wants to limit in the run game. The only possible justification for a regression imo is potential injury given his size but he’s been a model of good health since his time at Stanford.

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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:34 am

For me, I think you can make this trade with no regrets...

CMC=Hopkins

Chubb > Mack / AJG (due to age).

I own Mack and am not optimistic, he has had 3-4 really solid performances, outside of that meh. This boils down to if you think Chubb will be a stud, and I personally believe he will.
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby greenbird » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:46 am

I like the Hopkins side.

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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby Edgy68 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:32 am

I think you're overpaying a bit, because CMC has shown to be a capable point scorer. He is probably a tier ahead of Hopkins, although both are top 10 startup selections. The question comes down to the worth of AJG and Mack compared to Chubb. Chubb showed me enough to try unsuccessfully to pry him away from teams in leagues in which I don't own him already. Even with AJs age and injuries, that side of the package scores such that it makes them at least equal to, if not a little greater than Chubb. I'd ask for a 2020 2nd on top. I like the Hopkins/Chubb side, but the value leans a little toward what you're giving up than receiving.
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Re: Moving McCaffrey

Postby Titans95 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:27 am

skip wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:04 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:03 am
skip wrote: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:26 am McCaffery is easily the best piece here but it wouldn't surprise me if Chubb is the second best piece by some time next season. There is just something about the trade that would make me want to hold out for more
You have CMC over Hopkins? Not arguing, but you say "easily", and most would argue that CMC is easily the best piece over Hopkins, unless you mean specifically on the CMC side.
Essentially matched his reception total but with the yardage and TD opportunities as an RB, CMC is well ahead of Hopkins so yes... Easily. And to put it into perspective, Hopkins is having his best season as a pro and yet is still trailing McCaffery by 70 points. Before the question is asked if I think McCaffery can repeat his numbers - yes, he can. And don't look now, but the #1 RB discussion isn't just Barkley vs Gurley...
100% agree, At this point I'm tempted to put Gurley towards the bottom of that tier behind Barkley and CMC. I see no reason why any of them will have a dropoff in production so then I lean towards giving the nod to the younger back and the back that just broke the all time receptions record for a RB....talk about safest floor in football.


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