Kelce for fournette?
Kelce for fournette?
I got offered fournette for kelce. I need rbs, would you all take this trade? Will have to wait till off-season due to trade deadline passing. This whole hunt fiasco really hurt my rb situation.
Re: Kelce for fournette?
need more information....kelce is difficult to replace
what does your roster look like? how many starters? who are your other RBs? TEs?
what does your roster look like? how many starters? who are your other RBs? TEs?
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Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
Re: Kelce for fournette?
Start 2 rbs, 1 te and one flex. I have Marlon Mack, Mark Ingram, Sony Michel and Kareem Hunt. Tight end wise I have Andrews from Baltimore as backup. I want to get that Iowa TE in rookie draft this year. Thanks for the help.
Re: Kelce for fournette?
I really can’t think of any scenario where I’d prefer Fournette to Kelce straight up. Keep your stud.
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TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
Re: Kelce for fournette?
Kelce produces nearly the same amount of points than Fournette, but in your TE slot…
I wouldn't do it...
I wouldn't do it...
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Re: Kelce for fournette?
Easy pass for me. Kelce is irreplaceable. Not even close in my book
Re: Kelce for fournette?
I'd prefer Kelce the rest of the year but given you mentioned this wouldn't happen until the offseason, I would seriously consider it.
Lots of people talking about what Kelce is doing right now but the reality is to expect these massive numbers going forward from Kelce/Mahomes is a low percentage play. We've seen this story a million times before. Guy has a massive blow-up season and regresses back closer to his career averages after that. Kelce/Mahomes should still be great going forward but Mahomes is not going to throw for 55 TDs every year.
There is a lot of room for the KC offense to regress even while remaining one of the top 3 offenses in the league.
Lots of people talking about what Kelce is doing right now but the reality is to expect these massive numbers going forward from Kelce/Mahomes is a low percentage play. We've seen this story a million times before. Guy has a massive blow-up season and regresses back closer to his career averages after that. Kelce/Mahomes should still be great going forward but Mahomes is not going to throw for 55 TDs every year.
There is a lot of room for the KC offense to regress even while remaining one of the top 3 offenses in the league.
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Re: Kelce for fournette?
I am lower on LF than most, but this isn't even close for me. Kelce all day long
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Re: Kelce for fournette?
Even if Kelce regresses this is easily Kelce for me. To much of a positional advantage
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Re: Kelce for fournette?
Kelce > Fournette
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Re: Kelce for fournette?
I like Fournette here, but the TE position is absolutely a wasteland. I wouldn't blame you standing pat either. If I could get him to add a pick or something I'd love the trade more.
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Re: Kelce for fournette?
Yes but Kelce has been a top tight end for years now. This isn’t a fluke season. Kelce is and will be a stud (unless injured) and tight end is thinner than RB.Vcize wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:11 am I'd prefer Kelce the rest of the year but given you mentioned this wouldn't happen until the offseason, I would seriously consider it.
Lots of people talking about what Kelce is doing right now but the reality is to expect these massive numbers going forward from Kelce/Mahomes is a low percentage play. We've seen this story a million times before. Guy has a massive blow-up season and regresses back closer to his career averages after that. Kelce/Mahomes should still be great going forward but Mahomes is not going to throw for 55 TDs every year.
There is a lot of room for the KC offense to regress even while remaining one of the top 3 offenses in the league.
Re: Kelce for fournette?
Well sure but these two things are not mutually exclusive. Kelce can be a top tight end for years and going forward and this still be a fluke season as it is likely a fluke season for the entire offense. Kelce would still a top TE at his usual 80-1000-7 baseline, but people are currently valuing him at his 106-1400-14 pace which will likely end up an outlier for his career.Valhalla wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:13 pmYes but Kelce has been a top tight end for years now. This isn’t a fluke season. Kelce is and will be a stud (unless injured) and tight end is thinner than RB.Vcize wrote: ↑Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:11 am I'd prefer Kelce the rest of the year but given you mentioned this wouldn't happen until the offseason, I would seriously consider it.
Lots of people talking about what Kelce is doing right now but the reality is to expect these massive numbers going forward from Kelce/Mahomes is a low percentage play. We've seen this story a million times before. Guy has a massive blow-up season and regresses back closer to his career averages after that. Kelce/Mahomes should still be great going forward but Mahomes is not going to throw for 55 TDs every year.
There is a lot of room for the KC offense to regress even while remaining one of the top 3 offenses in the league.
It is very similar to Gronk's 90-1400-17 season. He remained a top TE for many years after that, but that was still a fluke season for his career.
I'm not saying that Fournette is more valuable than Kelce at his manageable baseline after the likely regression to his mean in future season, just that I think it's a mistake to assume this is his new baseline like when some in here have posted things like "Kelce is scoring as many points as Fournette". Kelce is unlikely to score this many points in future seasons as nearly every time we see one of these crazy years where the QB throws for 50+ TDs things regress quite a bit going forward.
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Re: Kelce for fournette?
Fournette has a higher ceiling week to week. He touches it 20-25 times. Guess I'm in the minority here. I'd rather start Herndon and hope for the best than start Ty Montgomery or some other flyer at RB.
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