Tevin Coleman value in 2019

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Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby Mika1205 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:21 pm

Some league members are asking what I want for Tevin Coleman.
I need to buy young, as I won’t be competing the next two years.
In the best case for him (lets say he gets the lead back job in a good RB scheme next year), how much would you need to be offered to sell him in that case?
Is two late firsts a fair price? Or should I ask for more?

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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby Favrezilla » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:24 pm

Nobody (in their right mind) is giving two firsts for TC - I offered 2 seconds for him but I doubt that gets accepted. My guess is some people would consider offering a single first but even then it's doubtful.

He's a solid contributor but any team relying on him as a weekly starter won't be winning a chip. I also highly doubt he's a true starter anywhere next year - seems like a committee guy...
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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby Titans95 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:24 pm

I'd want an early 1st. why not just keep him? His value is about to go up after Freeman misses this week and potentially longer

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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:32 pm

Favrezilla wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:24 pm Nobody (in their right mind) is giving two firsts for TC - I offered 2 seconds for him but I doubt that gets accepted. My guess is some people would consider offering a single first but even then it's doubtful.

He's a solid contributor but any team relying on him as a weekly starter won't be winning a chip. I also highly doubt he's a true starter anywhere next year - seems like a committee guy...
you are way low on him dude. even in a committee hes a safe bet for top 24 numbers. hes worth 2 random firsts to me, if i projected them to be mid/late. he is worthy of a pick around 1.05 i would say as is if i'm getting a single first. would prob prefer the early/mid first to coleman if i'm in a rebuild.

2 2nds seems pretty light to me
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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby Mika1205 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:33 pm

Titans95 wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:24 pm I'd want an early 1st. why not just keep him? His value is about to go up after Freeman misses this week and potentially longer
I believe I can get two firsts, but the guy is the clear favorite the next couple of years, so it looks like 2020 1.11-1.12 and 2021 1.11-1.12

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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby Favrezilla » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:14 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:32 pm
Favrezilla wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:24 pm Nobody (in their right mind) is giving two firsts for TC - I offered 2 seconds for him but I doubt that gets accepted. My guess is some people would consider offering a single first but even then it's doubtful.

He's a solid contributor but any team relying on him as a weekly starter won't be winning a chip. I also highly doubt he's a true starter anywhere next year - seems like a committee guy...
you are way low on him dude. even in a committee hes a safe bet for top 24 numbers. hes worth 2 random firsts to me, if i projected them to be mid/late. he is worthy of a pick around 1.05 i would say as is if i'm getting a single first. would prob prefer the early/mid first to coleman if i'm in a rebuild.

2 2nds seems pretty light to me
here are he guys who scored around him in 2017: CJ Anderson, Buck Allen, Lamar miller, Alex Collins, Duke Johnson - you paying two first for any of them? Nope.

Here are the guys who scored around him in 2016: Jeremy hill, Lamar miller, spencer ware, Carlos Hyde, latavious Murray.

You can make all the cases in the world for anyone but he's never finished higher than RB20 (IN PPR!!! Where he gets a huge bump) so I don't understand how anyone would drop two firsts on him yes he is nice when he doesn't have to do much on his own but I just see him staying healthy on 200-250 carries or even ever getting hat many, part of what makes him effective is him splitting time - and again I'm not paying 2 firsts for RB20.
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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby keebs3 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:17 pm

I sold him for a 1st last year- I think he's worth a mid 1st at the moment. But I agree, his value will only rise from here- I'm holding where I own.
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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby Krypto_King » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:29 pm

Favrezilla wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:14 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:32 pm
Favrezilla wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:24 pm Nobody (in their right mind) is giving two firsts for TC - I offered 2 seconds for him but I doubt that gets accepted. My guess is some people would consider offering a single first but even then it's doubtful.

He's a solid contributor but any team relying on him as a weekly starter won't be winning a chip. I also highly doubt he's a true starter anywhere next year - seems like a committee guy...
you are way low on him dude. even in a committee hes a safe bet for top 24 numbers. hes worth 2 random firsts to me, if i projected them to be mid/late. he is worthy of a pick around 1.05 i would say as is if i'm getting a single first. would prob prefer the early/mid first to coleman if i'm in a rebuild.

2 2nds seems pretty light to me
here are he guys who scored around him in 2017: CJ Anderson, Buck Allen, Lamar miller, Alex Collins, Duke Johnson - you paying two first for any of them? Nope.

Here are the guys who scored around him in 2016: Jeremy hill, Lamar miller, spencer ware, Carlos Hyde, latavious Murray.

You can make all the cases in the world for anyone but he's never finished higher than RB20 (IN PPR!!! Where he gets a huge bump) so I don't understand how anyone would drop two firsts on him yes he is nice when he doesn't have to do much on his own but I just see him staying healthy on 200-250 carries or even ever getting hat many, part of what makes him effective is him splitting time - and again I'm not paying 2 firsts for RB20.
If you read the OP, he didn't ask what is Tevin worth now, but 7 months from now, assuming health and a lead role on a good team. It was a hypothetical. 2 late 1sts is probably low in that scenario, depending on how much steam the 2019 class can gain in that time period.

I'd hold for now OP. Freeman was bothered by this same knee last year and while they call it minor, he had since last thursday to recover. The Falcons are also being sneaky and hush about it. There is a real chance this is much greater than they are letting on.

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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby Vcize » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:57 pm

It's a complete toss-up. It's totally based on landing spot. The best FA RB certainly doesn't always end up in the best spot. This time last year Carlos Hyde was the clear best upcoming FA RB. And he could also pull a Jonathan Stewart and inexplicably re-sign into a lifetime of RBBC so he can still walk when he's 50.

But if we're assumiing he signs into a lead role, it seems like 2 late 1sts is an underpay.
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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby FeartheRavens06 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:48 pm

Bump.
After somewhat of a down year for him this season, where do we put his value now? Mid 1st? Late 1st?
My team needs some serious help at TE so thinking of making an offer for Kittle, Henry, Howard or Njoku. I'd imagine I need to add to Coleman in any of those cases
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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby ESKAY » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:08 pm

I thought like you he had a down year so I looked up his stats. He finished with almost 1100 total yards and 9 TDS. Not bad at all really. He finished RB 16 in our league. It really is a gamble as to where he signs. But to answer your question I think it is more than fair to get one of those TE mentioned straight up for Coleman. Except for Kittle which you would have to add a lot too. He also had a 4.4 YPC which is pretty good. I just don’t think he had enough rushing attempts.

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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby ESKAY » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:10 pm

I don’t think I could get a RB in this class as good as him. So if 2 WR are better I would need at least a top 3 pick in this draft for him. I doubt anyone would pay that though.

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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby skip » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:29 pm

FeartheRavens06 wrote: Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:48 pm Bump.
After somewhat of a down year for him this season, where do we put his value now? Mid 1st? Late 1st?
My team needs some serious help at TE so thinking of making an offer for Kittle, Henry, Howard or Njoku. I'd imagine I need to add to Coleman in any of those cases
I wouldn't trade Njoku for him. Maybe Henry or Howard is I had the TE depth. But Coleman is nothing more than a backup quality player. That was pretty obvious from his play this season. Can't see him landing a starting gig.
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Re: Tevin Coleman value in 2019

Postby Bot101 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:37 pm

I think we can point to the OC and the Oline being in shambles as big factors on Coleman's season. Ive been trying to trade him to help my TE situation but no no avail. The best offer I could get was Washington and the 13th overall. Ill hold for that price. Hes in his prime and he didnt just get bad after 3 years of being good. Lets not forget he actually beat Freeman for the starting job and the only reason Freeman got the gig (and exploded) was because of a Coleman injury.

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