Trade fairness - Trade REJECTED by league

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

How would you rate this trade?

Completely unreasonable - favoring the Aaron Rodgers side
0
No votes
Shaded towards the Aaron Rodgers side
1
2%
Roughly equal, justifiable based on team makeup
37
76%
Shaded towards the Rivers/ARob side
11
22%
Completely unreasonable - favoring the Rivers/ARob side
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 49

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Trade fairness - Trade REJECTED by league

Postby Shcritters » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:13 pm

Need the forum's judgement on a trade. In a 6-pt passing TD contract/salary league, it is essentially a trade of 1-year of Aaron Rodgers for 1 year of Phillip Rivers and 1 year of Allen Robinson. The Allen Robinson side would also have the option to tag ARob for 3 years after this year if he performs well and he wants to commit ~25% of his cap space to that player.

Edit: One small update I want to add to make sure the context is there - in a $320 cap league ARod went for auction for 1-year at $75, while Rivers was at $20 and ARobinson was at $4 (last year of rookie contract). This meant, for cap reasons, the ARod owner had to send over $50 with Rodgers to make the deal work.

How does the forum feel about this trade?
Last edited by Shcritters on Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:53 am, edited 2 times in total.
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QB: Rivers ($6 - 2020), Mayfield ($4 - 2022)
RB: Chubb ($5 - 2022), Gurley ($58 - 2020), Mixon ($7 - 2023), Guice ($6 - 2022), MWilliams ($1-2024)
WR: Julio ($75 - 2019), Cooper ($12 - 2021), JuJu SS ($2 - 2023), Diggs ($2 - 2021), Watkins ($15 - 2020), MWilliams ($9 - 2022), Kirk ($2 - 2024), Isabella ($2 - 2025)
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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:15 pm

Seems fair to me in a 6pt for TD league. A big upgrade at QB for a WR with potential.
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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby JoshGordonsDealer » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:21 pm

I'm not sure which side you think got fleeced... It's not like Rivers is a slouch.

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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby Shcritters » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:22 pm

One small update I want to add to make sure the context is there - in a $320 cap league ARod went for auction for 1-year at $75, while Rivers was at $20 and ARobinson was at $4 (last year of rookie contract). This meant, for cap reasons, the ARod owner had to send over $50 with Rodgers to make the deal work.

Don't know if it changes anything, but wanted it out there for awareness in case it changes anyone's opinion.
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QB: Rivers ($6 - 2020), Mayfield ($4 - 2022)
RB: Chubb ($5 - 2022), Gurley ($58 - 2020), Mixon ($7 - 2023), Guice ($6 - 2022), MWilliams ($1-2024)
WR: Julio ($75 - 2019), Cooper ($12 - 2021), JuJu SS ($2 - 2023), Diggs ($2 - 2021), Watkins ($15 - 2020), MWilliams ($9 - 2022), Kirk ($2 - 2024), Isabella ($2 - 2025)
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RB: Cook, Chubb, Connor, Mattison, Ogunbowale, Richard, Crowell
WR: MThomas, Tyreek, Davis, Sutton, AJBrown, Dorsett, PRichardson, DParker, Doctson, Cain
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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby Goddard » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:25 pm

Seems ok, but I'd rather have the Rivers side. Rodgers is obviously better, but how much better is he going to be for just this year? Rivers will still put up QB1 numbers and you get a WR2 with WR1 upside.

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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:26 pm

Shcritters wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:22 pm
One small update I want to add to make sure the context is there - in a $320 cap league ARod went for auction for 1-year at $75, while Rivers was at $20 and ARobinson was at $4 (last year of rookie contract). This meant, for cap reasons, the ARod owner had to send over $50 with Rodgers to make the deal work.

Don't know if it changes anything, but wanted it out there for awareness in case it changes anyone's opinion.
Doesn't change anything for me. As long as he has the cap space it make sense to grab Rodgers. Not sure what the big deal is here.
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WR O. Beckham Jr, D. Adams, M. Evans, S. Diggs, J. Gordon, A. Humphries, D. Funchess, J.Meyers
TE W. Dissly
2020 Picks: 2.01, 2.03

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QB K. Murray (4 $21), J. Flacco (1 $15)
RB S. Barkley (3 $25), M. Brieda (3 $13)
WR D. Adams (2 $10), D. Hopkins (1 $24), M. Evans (2 $27), A. Brown (Ten) (3 $12), A. Humphries (2 $10) C. Samuel (3 $10), H. Butler (3 $8, TS)
TE G. Kittle (2 $32), O. Howard (2 $19)
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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby NFL-ons » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:29 pm

Rodgers

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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby Slackalacker » Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:50 pm

I’d rather have Arob side.

I think the replies on this thread show that what some people think is a steal is an overpay to others.
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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby Alex116 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:03 pm

What sort of ruling is needed here? I think it's even and if anything I would favour the Rivers side for one year. When you say "a ruling", surely this can't be considered for a veto? I think the responses here clarify that it's a pretty reasonable deal.

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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby greenbird » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:10 pm

rivers side for me

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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby vixen » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:27 pm

i don't see the problem, honestly

contract league or no contract league, seems legit to me
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
mahomes, Dan Jones
kamara, mack, lindsay, AP/love,Jaylen, Pollard, McKissic
antonio, AJG/Erickson, thielen, allison, sutton, kirk, Hurd, JJAW, Slayton
Hooper, Herndon
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Jimmy GQ, Brissett
DJ, DFreeman, McKinnon, Samuels, DHenry, Pollard, Darwin Thompson
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Jo Brown, Boyd, Hamilton/Sutton, JJAW, Harmon
Herndon, Andrews, Fant
team 3-superflex/TE premium 1-2QB 1-6RB 2-7WR 1-6TE (10 total)
R/W=.2ppc/1ppr/.25pt per target TE=1.5ppr/.35per target/.15per yd
also .1pt per return yd/.05 per attempt
Josh Allen, Jones
Cook/Latavius, Abdullah, White, Chubb, Sanders
Watkins, Lockett, Kupp, Jo Brown, Patterson, Funchess/Cain, Agholor, Kumerow, Callaway, Patterson, Hollywood, Hurd, Isabella
Andrews, Herndon, I Thomas, Gronk, Waller, Fant

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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby Nightmares » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:41 pm

Shcritters wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:22 pm
One small update I want to add to make sure the context is there - in a $320 cap league ARod went for auction for 1-year at $75, while Rivers was at $20 and ARobinson was at $4 (last year of rookie contract). This meant, for cap reasons, the ARod owner had to send over $50 with Rodgers to make the deal work.

Don't know if it changes anything, but wanted it out there for awareness in case it changes anyone's opinion.
I think you are hung up on what the owner's in this league paid, not the market value of the players. I love Rodgers, but lean to the Rivers ARob side of this deal.

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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby Shcritters » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:26 pm

Bumping for the night crowd.
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12 team PPR Contract/Salary league. $331 cap limit. Starting lineup is QB, RB, RB/WR, 2 WR, WR/TE, plus IDP's (2 LB, 2 CB/S, 2 DL).

QB: Rivers ($6 - 2020), Mayfield ($4 - 2022)
RB: Chubb ($5 - 2022), Gurley ($58 - 2020), Mixon ($7 - 2023), Guice ($6 - 2022), MWilliams ($1-2024)
WR: Julio ($75 - 2019), Cooper ($12 - 2021), JuJu SS ($2 - 2023), Diggs ($2 - 2021), Watkins ($15 - 2020), MWilliams ($9 - 2022), Kirk ($2 - 2024), Isabella ($2 - 2025)
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QB: Mahomes, Mayfield, Carr
RB: Cook, Chubb, Connor, Mattison, Ogunbowale, Richard, Crowell
WR: MThomas, Tyreek, Davis, Sutton, AJBrown, Dorsett, PRichardson, DParker, Doctson, Cain
TE: Dissly, OJHoward, McDonald, Shaheen, Vannett, Fells
2020: 1st (late), 2nd (early), 3rd, 4th

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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby cornhole2412 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:46 pm

If both owners accepted it.... it's a good trade.
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Re: Trade fairness - need a ruling

Postby MontrealBen » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:46 pm

What's the problem?
(1) 10 team standard
Newton, Brady, Jackson
Mixon, Bell, Conner, Gordon, DFreeman, McCoy, Barber, Ballage
OBJ, Cooper, Godwin, Green, Boyd, MWilliams, CDavis, Quinn, PWilliams, ABrown
Ertz, Goedert, Burton
(1,2,2,3,3,4)

(2) 12 team, PPR, superflex, TE premium
Mahomes, Daniels, Lock
Cook, Mixon, Carson, Montgomery, Drake, Guice, Lindsay, White, ISmith, Ballage, JWilliams
Cooper, Godwin, Lockett, Moore, JGordon, Jeffrey, MVS, AWilson, Tate
Dissly, Witten
(1-7 + extra 3rd)

(3) 10 team, 0.5 PPR
Newton, Murray, Brissett
Kamara, Conner, RFreeman, Thompson, DaWilliams, DHenderson, ISmith, Hilliard, DeWilliams, Hill, Snell
Hopkins, Woods, MVS, DJax, Harry, Pettis, Ross, Tate, Quinn, Taylor, Ginn, Amendola, Wilson, Hamilton, Reynolds, Pascal, Cain, Pringle
Kelce, Goedert, Knox, Thomas, Watson, Kroft
(1-4 + 3 2nds)


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