Bell trade
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Bell trade
Bell owner in my league is shopping him. He wants Kamara, Diggs, and a 2019 second. Thoughts?
12-team PPR
1 QB | 3 WR | 2 RB | 1 TE | 1 FLEX | 1 K | 1 DEF
QB: Rodgers, Newton
WR: Hopkins, J. Jones, Diggs, J. Gordon, Godwin, Golladay, G. Allison, Cobb, Coutee
RB: Howard, A. Jones, Ingram, Clement, Ajayi
TE: Ertz, Kittle
1 QB | 3 WR | 2 RB | 1 TE | 1 FLEX | 1 K | 1 DEF
QB: Rodgers, Newton
WR: Hopkins, J. Jones, Diggs, J. Gordon, Godwin, Golladay, G. Allison, Cobb, Coutee
RB: Howard, A. Jones, Ingram, Clement, Ajayi
TE: Ertz, Kittle
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Re: Bell trade
I take the youth side. I like both Kamara and Diggs. Truthfully I think Kamara is closer to just a 2nd away from Bell.
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Re: Bell trade
Absolutely bleep not. I wouldn't even send Kamara straight up for him, though I know some people would. Just too much for one player who may be on a completely different team next season.
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Re: Bell trade
Too much
Team 1. 12 team. 1 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2017 2nd, 2018 2nd, 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2022 1st
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5
Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5
QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5
Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5
Re: Bell trade
Thoughts ... very funny
Re: Bell trade
Bell is the obvious best piece but given Diggs' current value it's an overpay.
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Re: Bell trade
It typically takes an overpay for Bell, but I’d hold Kamara/Diggs
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Re: Bell trade
Kamara, not close
32 Team .5 PPR, 2 Copies
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth
12 Team PPR
QB Young
RB Pierce, Bigsby
WR Johnston, Mingo, Pierce, Marshall, Toney, Perry
TE Freiermuth, Ferguson, Kraft
1.02, 1.03, (5) 24 2nds, (2) 24 3rds, (2) 25 1sts, (3) 25 2nds
12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Metcalf, Ridley, Rice
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell
12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
DB Smith, Curl, Love, Byard, McKinney
QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth
12 Team PPR
QB Young
RB Pierce, Bigsby
WR Johnston, Mingo, Pierce, Marshall, Toney, Perry
TE Freiermuth, Ferguson, Kraft
1.02, 1.03, (5) 24 2nds, (2) 24 3rds, (2) 25 1sts, (3) 25 2nds
12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Metcalf, Ridley, Rice
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
DL Watt, Sieler, Jones, P Smith, Simmons, Lawrence, Z Smith
LB Morrow, Deablow, To'oTo'o
DB Holland, Winfield, Wallace, Bell
12 Team PPR SF TE Premium IDP
QB Mahomes, Tannehill
RB Mostert, Pacheco, Montogmery, Pierce, Ford, Warren, Javonte Williams
WR Chase, Allen, Sutton, Pittman, Doubs
TE Kelce, Hurst, Dulcich
DL Hunter, Cooper, Allen, Autry, Carter, Young
LB Franklin, Oluokun, Singleton
DB Smith, Curl, Love, Byard, McKinney
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Re: Bell trade
Gimme Kamara and Diggs right this second.
16 team dynasty league, .5 PPR, Yardage (RB/WR/TE) 5pt=50, 10pt=100, QB= need 250 yards before collecting points for yds
QB-Mahomes, Gabbert, Heinecke
RB- Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry, CEH, Deon Jackson, Prince, Keaton Mitchell
WR- Ja'Mar Chase, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Russell Gage, Charlie Jones, Sherfield, Wicks
TE- Mark Andrews, Conklin, Darnell Washington
K- Joesph
DT/DE- Burns, Wilkins, Highsmith, Houston
LB- Foyesade Oluokun, Zaire Franklin, Werner, Logan Wilson
CB/S- Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Talanoa Hufanga, Deshon Elliot
QB-Mahomes, Gabbert, Heinecke
RB- Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry, CEH, Deon Jackson, Prince, Keaton Mitchell
WR- Ja'Mar Chase, DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Russell Gage, Charlie Jones, Sherfield, Wicks
TE- Mark Andrews, Conklin, Darnell Washington
K- Joesph
DT/DE- Burns, Wilkins, Highsmith, Houston
LB- Foyesade Oluokun, Zaire Franklin, Werner, Logan Wilson
CB/S- Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Talanoa Hufanga, Deshon Elliot
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Re: Bell trade
i dont understand why anyone would wanna buy bell at this time.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Bell trade
Thanks for the input guys.
Given this, what would you say the gap between Kamara and Bell is?
Some don't expect Kamara to duplicate last years efficiency numbers but even if he regresses it seems as though he has a top 12 PPR floor regardless (barring injury of course).
Question with Bell is: he's clearly a great running back but how much of his value relies on being in an offense that force feeds him the ball while also forcing defenses to respect the pass? I think he's done in Pitt and question if a soon to be 27 year old back with a lot of miles on say, the jets, would produce similarly. Bell could be elite for 4 more years or 1, and I don't think either scenario is more likely than the other.
Given this, what would you say the gap between Kamara and Bell is?
Some don't expect Kamara to duplicate last years efficiency numbers but even if he regresses it seems as though he has a top 12 PPR floor regardless (barring injury of course).
Question with Bell is: he's clearly a great running back but how much of his value relies on being in an offense that force feeds him the ball while also forcing defenses to respect the pass? I think he's done in Pitt and question if a soon to be 27 year old back with a lot of miles on say, the jets, would produce similarly. Bell could be elite for 4 more years or 1, and I don't think either scenario is more likely than the other.
12-team PPR
1 QB | 3 WR | 2 RB | 1 TE | 1 FLEX | 1 K | 1 DEF
QB: Rodgers, Newton
WR: Hopkins, J. Jones, Diggs, J. Gordon, Godwin, Golladay, G. Allison, Cobb, Coutee
RB: Howard, A. Jones, Ingram, Clement, Ajayi
TE: Ertz, Kittle
1 QB | 3 WR | 2 RB | 1 TE | 1 FLEX | 1 K | 1 DEF
QB: Rodgers, Newton
WR: Hopkins, J. Jones, Diggs, J. Gordon, Godwin, Golladay, G. Allison, Cobb, Coutee
RB: Howard, A. Jones, Ingram, Clement, Ajayi
TE: Ertz, Kittle
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Re: Bell trade
Doesn't look like bell will play week 1
12-team PPR
1 QB | 3 WR | 2 RB | 1 TE | 1 FLEX | 1 K | 1 DEF
QB: Rodgers, Newton
WR: Hopkins, J. Jones, Diggs, J. Gordon, Godwin, Golladay, G. Allison, Cobb, Coutee
RB: Howard, A. Jones, Ingram, Clement, Ajayi
TE: Ertz, Kittle
1 QB | 3 WR | 2 RB | 1 TE | 1 FLEX | 1 K | 1 DEF
QB: Rodgers, Newton
WR: Hopkins, J. Jones, Diggs, J. Gordon, Godwin, Golladay, G. Allison, Cobb, Coutee
RB: Howard, A. Jones, Ingram, Clement, Ajayi
TE: Ertz, Kittle
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Re: Bell trade
^ called that long ago haha, it will likely be more than 1 week imo
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Bell trade
I Kno they won't, but it'd b soooo awesome if they pulled his tag.
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