Drake vs. Rookies

[WhiskeyRacer]

So, Kenyan Drake was just dropped in my 10 team/10 keeper league in my signature.
I have the 1.09 pick this year and am thinking I should take him at that spot but am not sold.

Where do you rank Drake in this year's rookie class and should I take him?


Thanks,

[Avery]

I have him right in there with the second group after Barkley which is bunched together for me (Guice if you can wait, Penny, Michel, Johnson - I have Freeman maybe lower than most) so he if is still there at 1.09 I'd take that assume everyone else in this tier is picked.

[nyterp]

I bought him for 1.13 (toilet bowl) in my 12 team superflex. At the time I valued him below Saquan, Penny, Guice, Chubb, RoJo, Sony, Kerryon, and Freeman. They were all off the board. ADP has him around 1.08ish, so you are in the right range at 1.09 and it would really come down to personal preference.

[Goddard]

I wouldn't take him with the 1.09.

[Titans95]

Drake=1.12 at best....I'd prefer all 8 rookie Rb's and Moore, Sutton, Ridley over him

[AresGodOWar]

I been seeing him go right after the first 4 RBs , Barkley , Guice , Freeman , Penny , Drake. He has by far the most skill out of everyone other than Barkley

[Titans95]

I been seeing him go right after the first 4 RBs , Barkley , Guice , Freeman , Penny , Drake. He has by far the most skill out of everyone other than Barkley

Is that a fact? Lower draft capital then every one of those rookies, has never been a starter in college or NFL which makes him have pretty minimal stats as a rookie and pretty minimal stats as an NFL player and college player. I think its pretty aggressive to say he has more talent than Guice who broke SEC records left and right, Michel and Chubb who were dominant at the college level, Penny who was the leading rusher in college, RoJo with the highest PFF run grade.

All the top 8 rookies are higher prospects and better college athletes. You can't say Drake has "more skill by far".

[AresGodOWar]

I been seeing him go right after the first 4 RBs , Barkley , Guice , Freeman , Penny , Drake. He has by far the most skill out of everyone other than Barkley

Is that a fact? Lower draft capital then every one of those rookies, has never been a starter in college or NFL which makes him have pretty minimal stats as a rookie and pretty minimal stats as an NFL player and college player. I think its pretty aggressive to say he has more talent than Guice who broke SEC records left and right, Michel and Chubb who were dominant at the college level, Penny who was the leading rusher in college, RoJo with the highest PFF run grade.

All the top 8 rookies are higher prospects and better college athletes. You can't say Drake has "more skill by far".

Penny comes from the same team as Pumphrey and he lead college in rushing the year before and he is about to be without a team so I don't consider Penny any good he is a product of his team , Drake avg. 6.4 ypc in college he got hurt a couple times and played behind some really good RBs he just didn't have the chance to show how good he was in college , Even though College stats don't really mean much to me there are way to many variables.

What do you mean he wasn't a starter in the NFL he started the last like 5 games and was a the #8 RB in the NFL , his last 8 games he was the #6 RB and didn't start 4 of them , I mean that is better than all them rookies have done in the NFL even though he has minm. stats they have none lol.

I mean tbh I'm just saying what I seen for a recent draft where he went , I do like him a lot as you can tell I have him in all my leagues lol.

Edit - It's kinda like Ballage he has a awesome skill set just wasn't used right in college that's kinda why I can care less about college stats , Or Barkley 4 100 yard games in each of his last 2 years and only beat up bad teams he avg. 3 ypc or less a bunch of games but people think he is the next coming of christ

[Titans95]

I been seeing him go right after the first 4 RBs , Barkley , Guice , Freeman , Penny , Drake. He has by far the most skill out of everyone other than Barkley

Is that a fact? Lower draft capital then every one of those rookies, has never been a starter in college or NFL which makes him have pretty minimal stats as a rookie and pretty minimal stats as an NFL player and college player. I think its pretty aggressive to say he has more talent than Guice who broke SEC records left and right, Michel and Chubb who were dominant at the college level, Penny who was the leading rusher in college, RoJo with the highest PFF run grade.

All the top 8 rookies are higher prospects and better college athletes. You can't say Drake has "more skill by far".

Penny comes from the same team as Pumphrey and he lead college in rushing the year before and he is about to be without a team so I don't consider Penny any good he is a product of his team , Drake avg. 6.4 ypc in college he got hurt a couple times and played behind some really good RBs he just didn't have the chance to show how good he was in college , Even though College stats don't really mean much to me there are way to many variables.

What do you mean he wasn't a starter in the NFL he started the last like 5 games and was a the #8 RB in the NFL , his last 8 games he was the #6 RB and didn't start 4 of them , I mean that is better than all them rookies have done in the NFL even though he has minm. stats they have none lol.

I mean tbh I'm just saying what I seen for a recent draft where he went , I do like him a lot as you can tell I have him in all my leagues lol.

Edit - It's kinda like Ballage he has a awesome skill set just wasn't used right in college that's kinda why I can care less about college stats , Or Barkley 4 100 yard games in each of his last 2 years and only beat up bad teams he avg. 3 ypc or less a bunch of games but people think he is the next coming of christ

I was just making the point that its way too early to say Drake has my physical talent than any of the rookies. Like I said Drake was never a starting RB in college and you could argue his stats were because he was running behind the best O-line in college. (I don't think thats why) I do think Drake is a talented back but even last year he was splitting reps with Damien freaking Williams until he got hurt, now they brought in Frank Gore to split the load with him once again and he's on a very bad O-line and a bad offense in general so there are a lot of concerns about his workload and his offense in general.

I know College stats aren't end all be all by any means (Look at Kamara) but from a prospect evaluation standpoint you have to give the nod to all of the rookies over Drake as they produced more in college, were the starters, and all of them were drafted higher than him.

As for the whole Penny Pumphrey comparison come on....that one I've seen so many times and its such a lazy comparison. So every player coming out of San Diego St. is a guaranteed bust become a predecessor was? Pumphrey is 5'8 180 lbs and was drafted in the late 4th round....Penny is 5'11 220 and drafted in the 1st round. Even if you think the Seahawks reached there is a 0% chance he would've fallen out of the 2nd round. Pumphrey and Penny aren't comparable in any way other than they played for the same team in college. Totally different players and totally different skill sets.


After writing all of this and doing a tad bit more research into drake and watching a few games of every carry for him from last year I do have to say I'd probably rather have him over RoJo and MAYBE Freeman but that's it. The Miami offense just scares me way too much and the fact he's never carries the ball more than 133 times in a season (college and NFL) scares me too much to have him any higher.