Terrible trade oh my

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Get number 1 and Thielen
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Get Allen and Gordon
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Terrible trade oh my

Postby Benflicky » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:04 pm

Guys you honestly need to see this.

A guy in my league traded the number 1 pick and Thielen for Melvin Gordon and Keenan Allen I literally lost my mind. Honestly gotta be the worst trade I’ve seen in my entire life. I’m dropping out of the league if this goes through. What do you think.
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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby Pantherbro13 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:13 pm

Not the worst trade I’ve seen honestly. But it is pretty bad, especially with Thielen involved. Is he a big Chargers fan?
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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby hudini33 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:13 pm

Benflicky wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:04 pm Guys you honestly need to see this.

A guy in my league traded the number 1 pick and Thielen for Melvin Gordon and Keenan Allen I literally lost my mind. Honestly gotta be the worst trade I’ve seen in my entire life. I’m dropping out of the league if this goes through. What do you think.
I mean, it's definitely on the Theilen side, but not the worst I've seen.
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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby jcc6fd » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:14 pm

Why is this terrible? I prefer the Keenan Gordon side but I’d expect many to prefer Barkley and Thielen. Barkley (whether deservingly or not) is a first round startup player based on ADP. KA is a 2nd rounder and Gordon is a 3-4 while Thielen is slightly lower than that so it seems like a mathematically fair deal.
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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby hudini33 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:17 pm

jcc6fd wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:14 pm Why is this terrible? I prefer the Keenan Gordon side but I’d expect many to prefer Barkley and Thielen. Barkley (whether deservingly or not) is a first round startup player based on ADP. KA is a 2nd rounder and Gordon is a 3-4 while Thielen is slightly lower than that so it seems like a mathematically fair deal.
Kinda my thoughts. Sounds like the guy who had the 1.01 wants some talented players.
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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby colonnaj94 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:19 pm

It's not the worst trade ever, that's for sure.. The 1.01 owner should have been able to keep Thielen, though.
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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby sloth8u » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:20 pm

Huh..... Whats wrong with this deal? Which side wins op? Seriously not sure of the problem here.

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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby Mkh3225 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:25 pm

Same, seems like a solid deal to me? I have both Saquon and Keenan has potential top 10 startup players and Gordon is easily being drafted in the top 20...
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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby Blueboy » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:30 pm

Eh. It's one of the tamest Barkley deals I've ever seen, but KA is close to Barkley in value and Gordon >> Thielen.

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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby Favrezilla » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:54 pm

Keenan and Gordon by a mile.

Not sure i get the problem. IFFFF Barkley is as good as people think he still might not put up MG3 numbers...

KA >/= 1.1
MG3 >>>>> Thielen.

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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:54 pm

I don't understand what side is this bad for? I don't like Thielen at all tbh Cousins doesn't produce 1000 yard WRs , so he gave up the 1.01 and decent WR for a young top 5 WR and young top 5 RB
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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby The Showstopper » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:55 pm

I honestly feel like Thielen will let a lot of people down where he’s being drafted....I thought about this and it’s close, but I really think I’d rather have Allen and Gordon...Allen is much better and still younger than Thielen. Maybe Barkley turns out to be head and shoulders above Gordon, It’s certainly possible...But this is in no way a trade to be all upset about...

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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby Igwebuike 4 Prez » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:04 pm

Guess you'll be dropping out of the league.

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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby Goddard » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:06 pm

Don't know what's going on here. Allen is worth more than Barkley and Gordon is worth much more than Thielen. Someone wants to quit a league over this? I hope you're outraged that the Keenan owner gave his players away for cheap.

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Re: Terrible trade oh my

Postby skip » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:10 pm

This is pretty even based on Barkley's value but the Keenan/Gordon side is better.
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