Buying Davante Adams

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Buying Davante Adams

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:40 am

Hey guys, I was looking to move Amari Cooper+ something for Davante Adams.. I'm just curious, What else + Cooper should get a deal done?

Is Cooper, Moncrief and a 3rd a good starting point?

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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby Mike from Canada » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:45 am

You could start there but I would need more to move Adams. Right now is a tough time to sell Cooper.

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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:51 am

perkinsrooster wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:45 am You could start there but I would need more to move Adams. Right now is a tough time to sell Cooper.
What else would you be willing to add?
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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby TroyH » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:55 am

Just based on their current values, I think you are going to need to do something more along the lines of Cooper and a McKinnon for Adams. Adams is crazy high right now and Cooper's stock has dropped off significantly.
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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby HughHoney » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:58 am

I wouldn’t look to move Cooper for Adams right now. You’d be selling Cooper at rock bottom for Adams at peak value.

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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:58 am

TroyH wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:55 am Just based on their current values, I think you are going to need to do something more along the lines of Cooper and a McKinnon for Adams. Adams is crazy high right now and Cooper's stock has dropped off significantly.
If that's really the price, it's not worth it at all, I think McKinnon can be a top 15-20 RB and I have little RB Depth as it is right now
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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:06 am

Adams is going to cost a lot due to being the #1 to the best QB currently and hes young.

That's what you are paying for lol
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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby TroyH » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:08 am

JCDallas wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:58 am
TroyH wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:55 am Just based on their current values, I think you are going to need to do something more along the lines of Cooper and a McKinnon for Adams. Adams is crazy high right now and Cooper's stock has dropped off significantly.
If that's really the price, it's not worth it at all, I think McKinnon can be a top 15-20 RB and I have little RB Depth as it is right now
That is just my opinion though too. I think McKinnon has a lot of potential in SF, but I just can't trust him. He could never win out the starting job and be a true 3 down back after AP left Minnesota, so I am probably lower on him than most.
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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby chalorpas » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:15 am

Cooper + McKinnon for Adams is such a bad deal. Like someone else said, you are selling Cooper low and buying Adams high. Don't forget that Adams has never broken 1,000 yards. He's obviously in a great situation but he's just average talent to me.

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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby TroyH » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:20 am

chalorpas wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:15 am Cooper + McKinnon for Adams is such a bad deal. Like someone else said, you are selling Cooper low and buying Adams high. Don't forget that Adams has never broken 1,000 yards. He's obviously in a great situation but he's just average talent to me.
I guess I should have clarified earlier. I don't think he should offer that for Adams, but I think that is what the other owner is going to want for him. Adams' value is just that high and Cooper's is just that low right now.

Also, sorry for blowing up this thread so much. Bored at work on Friday :D .
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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby jcc6fd » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:37 am

TroyH wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:20 am
chalorpas wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:15 am Cooper + McKinnon for Adams is such a bad deal. Like someone else said, you are selling Cooper low and buying Adams high. Don't forget that Adams has never broken 1,000 yards. He's obviously in a great situation but he's just average talent to me.
I guess I should have clarified earlier. I don't think he should offer that for Adams, but I think that is what the other owner is going to want for him. Adams' value is just that high and Cooper's is just that low right now.

Also, sorry for blowing up this thread so much. Bored at work on Friday :D .
Another way to view this is he is getting out of Cooper before the bottom falls out and is getting Adams explodes. The future probably holds something less extreme, but I don’t know if Cooper rebounds the way people expect. Adding McKinnon seems like a relatively small price to pay and I would actually do this deal if possible. I know I wouldn’t accept it if I was the Adams owner
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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby notweswelker » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:22 am

HughHoney wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:58 am I wouldn’t look to move Cooper for Adams right now. You’d be selling Cooper at rock bottom for Adams at peak value.
If Adams puts up a top ten finish this season you don't think his value rises?

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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby colonnaj94 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:01 pm

Is Cooper, Hyde and a 3rd too much for Adams?
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QB Lawrence, Ridder
RB Bijan Robinson, Walker, Javonte Williams, Dillon
WR Pickens, Dell, Doubs, Reed, Mims
TE Freiermuth

12 Team PPR
QB Young
RB Harris, Pierce, Chandler, Bigsby, Kelley
WR Johnston, Wicks, Mingo, W Robinson, Z Jones, Marshall, Pierce, Toney, Perry
TE Freiermuth, Ferguson, Kraft, Gray
(3) 24 1sts, (5) 24 2nds, (2) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds

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QB Tagovailoa, Burrow
RB Chubb, Ford, Warren, Pierce, Javonte Williams, N Harris
WR Allen, Samuel, Pittman, Metcalf, Ridley, Rice
TE Goedert, Bryant, Hill
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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby Johnny Canuck » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:01 pm

jcc6fd wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:37 am Another way to view this is he is getting out of Cooper before the bottom falls out and is getting Adams before he explodes. The future probably holds something less extreme, but I don’t know if Cooper rebounds the way people expect. Adding McKinnon seems like a relatively small price to pay and I would actually do this deal if possible. I know I wouldn’t accept it if I was the Adams owner
^All of this.

People think they've seen Adams ceiling...In 2016 he was the WR2 behind Jordy, and in 2017 he played with Hundley for the majority of the season and Jordy was still on the team. Pretty hard to argue we've seen Adams ceiling when he'll have the greatest opportunity of his career thus far this upcoming season.

I don't know if I'd accept as an Adams owner. Actually, now that I think about it, I prob wouldn't. Think I'd rather have a top 5 WR than a middling WR2 & RB2.

*Grain of salt. I'm very high on Adams, and not sold on Mckinnon whatsoever. Guys gonna lose his three down job like he always does every time he gets an opportunity to run with it. With Mck you're getting a healthier/stronger version of Chris Thompson, not a Devonta Freeman like most are expecting.

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Re: Buying Davante Adams

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:54 pm

JCDallas wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:01 pm Is Cooper, Hyde and a 3rd too much for Adams?
Personally, that's nowhere near enough for me to sell Adams. I'd need at least Cooper + 1st.
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