Guice for Rojo
Guice for Rojo
I've been approached by the Guice owner asking what it would take to get Rojo. I'm debating what I want to do. He took Guice at 1.02 and I took Rojo at 1.04, so I'm going to assuming a straight up trade wouldn't happen. He was trying to trade back during the draft but had no takers. So my first question is should I even try to trade Rojo for Guice? I've been soso on Rojo the whole time, but he is skilled and landed in what I thought was the best spot. Second, if I try to make a trade, what would I need to put on top of Rojo to get Guice? This is for team 1 in my sig.
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Re: Guice for Rojo
if you like guice more than rojo make the offer striaightup.
AFTER the nfl draft i dont see as much difference between them, but he is probably down on him and sees the potential for Rojo to step in early.
AFTER the nfl draft i dont see as much difference between them, but he is probably down on him and sees the potential for Rojo to step in early.
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Re: Guice for Rojo
Kind of what I think too. Article came out about how Thompson is still going to have the 3rd down role and I think that has him down on Guice. I'm going to start with Guice and Rojo straight up and go from there, if I decide to send it that is. Just trying to be ready for what I might need to add.Favrezilla wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:30 pm if you like guice more than rojo make the offer striaightup.
AFTER the nfl draft i dont see as much difference between them, but he is probably down on him and sees the potential for Rojo to step in early.
Re: Guice for Rojo
I'd stick with Rojo.
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Re: Guice for Rojo
I like Guice more than Rojo, but the value is actually with Rojo in most people’s eyes because Guice is being talked up to be a 2 down guy by the coach whereas a Rojo is being assumed to be a 3 down guy although nothing concrete. Rojo is also valued as being in a better landing spot and has slightly higher draft capital.
So ultimately because of this and the fact that he approached you it’s very fair for you to ask for Guice straight up or even try and push your luck and get something sprinkled on top.
If you really like Guice and are very meh about Rojo I’d be willing to add a second to get your guy. I wouldn’t add anymore purely because of perceived value.
So ultimately because of this and the fact that he approached you it’s very fair for you to ask for Guice straight up or even try and push your luck and get something sprinkled on top.
If you really like Guice and are very meh about Rojo I’d be willing to add a second to get your guy. I wouldn’t add anymore purely because of perceived value.
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Re: Guice for Rojo
thompson was ALWAYS going to get the majority of 3rd down work (or crowder) and i wouldnt add anything unless you really want Guice and then i wouldnt add much. BUT i think Guice is the better player, he may not do as well however as i am not a fan of Gruden or the Skins OLine, along those thoughts i think Koetter may be one of the worst and most obvious playcallers in the nfl.
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Re: Guice for Rojo
Personally I'd take Guice over RoJo just because I'm a little low on rojo but I'm also not ecstatic about guice's landing spot so I'd make the trade straight up if the owner wants to do that and if he wants something sprinkled on I'd just decline and say no...he will probably come back at a later date and do the deal straight up and if he doesn't its okay to stand pat and roll the dice on rojo. He is in a better situation after all, just less talented but look at guys like Mixon compared to Hunt....
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Re: Guice for Rojo
I am not big on guice dont see the love affair with him locked in at 1.02
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Re: Guice for Rojo
Guice is the better player, Rojo is in the better situation. The differences essentially cancel each other out, so I wouldn't add anything.
Do it straight across if you like Guice more than Rojo, and if he wants you to add just don't make the deal.
Do it straight across if you like Guice more than Rojo, and if he wants you to add just don't make the deal.
Re: Guice for Rojo
I don't think anyone has good read on how this choice is going to turn out for you, whether you keep Rojo or get Guice.
If you like Guice better then it's okay to throw in a little something extra to get the deal done, but if they are even in your eyes then I would make him throw in a little something extra to get the deal done.
I would prefer Guice over Rojo. The lack of size and pass catching for Rojo pish me toward Guice. I think Guice will score more TDs.
If you like Guice better then it's okay to throw in a little something extra to get the deal done, but if they are even in your eyes then I would make him throw in a little something extra to get the deal done.
I would prefer Guice over Rojo. The lack of size and pass catching for Rojo pish me toward Guice. I think Guice will score more TDs.
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Re: Guice for Rojo
I'm guessing the other guy likes Rojo and wants him a lot, so it probably won't take much on top of Rojo to get him. I doubt he would do it straight up, because if that were the case, he would have just taken Rojo initially and knows that Guice is the better player. I'd start by offering a future 2nd or one of your young WRs.
Re: Guice for Rojo
While I agree somewhat, the Guice owner is the one asking for the trade. I'd def start out straight up one for one and hold tight at least for a day. The Guice owner tried to trade down, couldn't get it done, so instead of grabbing the guy her really wanted (RoJo), he grabbed the consensus (or close to it) #2 in Guice. NOW, he's looking a little bit worried about Guice's role and is likely regretting not taking RoJo to begin with. No way I add in my original offer. It'd be straight up for sure.Goddard wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:53 pm I'm guessing the other guy likes Rojo and wants him a lot, so it probably won't take much on top of Rojo to get him. I doubt he would do it straight up, because if that were the case, he would have just taken Rojo initially and knows that Guice is the better player. I'd start by offering a future 2nd or one of your young WRs.
Re: Guice for Rojo
You can and should definitely try straight up, but I'd expect it to get turned down pretty easily. If I'm wrong, even better for you.Alex116 wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 2:47 pmWhile I agree somewhat, the Guice owner is the one asking for the trade. I'd def start out straight up one for one and hold tight at least for a day. The Guice owner tried to trade down, couldn't get it done, so instead of grabbing the guy her really wanted (RoJo), he grabbed the consensus (or close to it) #2 in Guice. NOW, he's looking a little bit worried about Guice's role and is likely regretting not taking RoJo to begin with. No way I add in my original offer. It'd be straight up for sure.Goddard wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:53 pm I'm guessing the other guy likes Rojo and wants him a lot, so it probably won't take much on top of Rojo to get him. I doubt he would do it straight up, because if that were the case, he would have just taken Rojo initially and knows that Guice is the better player. I'd start by offering a future 2nd or one of your young WRs.
Re: Guice for Rojo
Guice easily. They have a better o-line and less top tier options to lean on. Thompson will get some third down work but Peyton Barber or whoever will get short yardage work, I think.
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Re: Guice for Rojo
This is exactly what I was thinking when I read the situation. Straight up offer sounds more than fair especially if he’s approaching you.Dunville wrote: ↑Thu May 10, 2018 1:35 pm I like Guice more than Rojo, but the value is actually with Rojo in most people’s eyes because Guice is being talked up to be a 2 down guy by the coach whereas a Rojo is being assumed to be a 3 down guy although nothing concrete. Rojo is also valued as being in a better landing spot and has slightly higher draft capital.
So ultimately because of this and the fact that he approached you it’s very fair for you to ask for Guice straight up or even try and push your luck and get something sprinkled on top.
If you really like Guice and are very meh about Rojo I’d be willing to add a second to get your guy. I wouldn’t add anymore purely because of perceived value.
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