Howard or 1.5+
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Howard or 1.5+
PPR, standard MFL scoring.
I was offered Jordan Howard/2nd for my Godwin/1.5/2.1.
Aside from some some security blanket QB work I need to do, RB is the biggest weakness for this squad. But I was simply planning on drafting brba (best rb available) with both of these picks when the time came. (Or draft brba at 1.5, and trade that 2.1 for another QB that'd help me make some noise this year.) Stick with my plan, or pull the trigger on Howard?
FWIW, I don't love trading for RBs before the draft unless they're a sure thing, and Howard seems to be a bit of a wildcard this offseason. Thoughts?
Squad:
Mariota
Mixon/Ingram/Miller/Foreman/Gio
Hopkins/ARob/Cooper/Diggs/Watkins/Treadwell/Godwin
Henry/Brate
(Bolded starters with a grain of salt. Who knows with these WRs when the time comes...)
I was offered Jordan Howard/2nd for my Godwin/1.5/2.1.
Aside from some some security blanket QB work I need to do, RB is the biggest weakness for this squad. But I was simply planning on drafting brba (best rb available) with both of these picks when the time came. (Or draft brba at 1.5, and trade that 2.1 for another QB that'd help me make some noise this year.) Stick with my plan, or pull the trigger on Howard?
FWIW, I don't love trading for RBs before the draft unless they're a sure thing, and Howard seems to be a bit of a wildcard this offseason. Thoughts?
Squad:
Mariota
Mixon/Ingram/Miller/Foreman/Gio
Hopkins/ARob/Cooper/Diggs/Watkins/Treadwell/Godwin
Henry/Brate
(Bolded starters with a grain of salt. Who knows with these WRs when the time comes...)
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Re: Howard or 1.5+
Howard > 1.05 + Godwin. Especially easy decision given your WR depth.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
Re: Howard or 1.5+
I like the Howard side, especially for that team.
Re: Howard or 1.5+
I would take the 1.5+ - especially in PPR.
Howard will never be anything more than a mid-tier RB2 and I would argue you're going to get an RB that is more talented than him at the 1.5 spot this upcoming year.
Godwin & 2.1 >> the other 2nd.
Howard also is not an RB I would be targeting before the draft.
Howard will never be anything more than a mid-tier RB2 and I would argue you're going to get an RB that is more talented than him at the 1.5 spot this upcoming year.
Godwin & 2.1 >> the other 2nd.
Howard also is not an RB I would be targeting before the draft.
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Re: Howard or 1.5+
Thanks all - appreciate your help!
I think I'll at least hold tight until after the NFL draft, and see what happens in Chi. Odds are that my 1.5 only increases in value - and hopefully I'll also gain a little more clarity around Howard's future.
I think I'll at least hold tight until after the NFL draft, and see what happens in Chi. Odds are that my 1.5 only increases in value - and hopefully I'll also gain a little more clarity around Howard's future.
Re: Howard or 1.5+
Howard.
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Andrews, Higbee
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Re: Howard or 1.5+
good thinkingGreenAndWhite81 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:33 pm Thanks all - appreciate your help!
I think I'll at least hold tight until after the NFL draft, and see what happens in Chi. Odds are that my 1.5 only increases in value - and hopefully I'll also gain a little more clarity around Howard's future.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Howard or 1.5+
This can go both ways, too. Howard locked in as feature back might not be in the other owner's plans on a similar deal. I like the idea to wait, but it could also sway values from the other side.GreenAndWhite81 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:33 pm Thanks all - appreciate your help!
I think I'll at least hold tight until after the NFL draft, and see what happens in Chi. Odds are that my 1.5 only increases in value - and hopefully I'll also gain a little more clarity around Howard's future.
50 roster 8 taxi squad 10 team PPR (1pt) IDP (2pt tack/1 pt ast) Best Ball Dynasty
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, RB/WR/TE Flex, 3DL, 4LB, 4DB
QB: Carson Wentz, Kyler Murray, Dwayne Haskins
RB: Devonta Freeman, Derrius Guice, Ito Smith, Jordan Howard, Tarik Cohen, Chris Thompson, Jalen Richard, Ryquell Armstead, JD McKissic, James Robinson
WR: Julio Jones, Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Kenny Golladay, Christian Kirk, Terry McLaurin, Courtland Sutton, Golden Tate, Curtis Samuel, Parris Campbell, Steven Sims, Dede Westbrook
TE: Greg Olsen, Hunter Henry, Evan Engram, Dan Arnold
DL: D. Hunter, J. Allen, D. Barnett, C. Jones, C. Young, J. Epenesa
LB: Deion Jones, Fred Warner, Von Miller, Myles Jack, Anthony Barr, Kyzir White, Blake Cashman, Jayon Brown, DeVondre Campbell, Kiko, Jatavis, SDH, Hightower
DB: J.Simmons, J. Reid, V. Bell, J Tartt, Jalen Thompson, Marcus Williams, Shawn Williams, K. Willis
Start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, RB/WR/TE Flex, 3DL, 4LB, 4DB
QB: Carson Wentz, Kyler Murray, Dwayne Haskins
RB: Devonta Freeman, Derrius Guice, Ito Smith, Jordan Howard, Tarik Cohen, Chris Thompson, Jalen Richard, Ryquell Armstead, JD McKissic, James Robinson
WR: Julio Jones, Mike Evans, DeAndre Hopkins, Kenny Golladay, Christian Kirk, Terry McLaurin, Courtland Sutton, Golden Tate, Curtis Samuel, Parris Campbell, Steven Sims, Dede Westbrook
TE: Greg Olsen, Hunter Henry, Evan Engram, Dan Arnold
DL: D. Hunter, J. Allen, D. Barnett, C. Jones, C. Young, J. Epenesa
LB: Deion Jones, Fred Warner, Von Miller, Myles Jack, Anthony Barr, Kyzir White, Blake Cashman, Jayon Brown, DeVondre Campbell, Kiko, Jatavis, SDH, Hightower
DB: J.Simmons, J. Reid, V. Bell, J Tartt, Jalen Thompson, Marcus Williams, Shawn Williams, K. Willis
Re: Howard or 1.5+
It's close but I prefer the 1.05/2.01 and long term value of Godwin.
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Re: Howard or 1.5+
I love me some Godwin, but give me the Howard side all day, especially with your receiving corps right now
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QB: Rodgers, Winston, Tyrod, Lamar Jackson
RB: Mixon, Foreman, D. Booker, Alfred Morris, Ivory, Nick Chubb, Chase Edmonds, Mike Gillislee, Itto Smith
WR: OBJ, Funchess, Tate, John Ross, Phillip Dorsett, Antonio Calloway, Jordan Lasley
TE: Kelce, Hooper, Butt, RSJ,
DL: Bosa, J.J. Watt, Danielle Hunter, Dante Fowler
LB: Alec Olgletree, Sean Lee, Raekwon McMillian, Darius Leonard,
DB: Landon Collins, Kenny Vaccaro, Josh Jones, Jabrill Peppers
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QB: Russell Wilson, Blake Bortles, Andy Dalton, Chad Kelly, Nathan Peterman
RB: Zeke, Bell, D. Booker, Jamaal Williams, T.J. Yeldon, Tavon Austin, Chase Edmonds, Alfred Blue, Chris Warren
WR: AJ Green, Golden Tate, Fitz, Godwin, Chris Hogan, Desean Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Jordan Lasley, Javon Wims, Deon Cain
TE: Kyle Rudolph, Austin Hooper, Butt
QB: Rodgers, Winston, Tyrod, Lamar Jackson
RB: Mixon, Foreman, D. Booker, Alfred Morris, Ivory, Nick Chubb, Chase Edmonds, Mike Gillislee, Itto Smith
WR: OBJ, Funchess, Tate, John Ross, Phillip Dorsett, Antonio Calloway, Jordan Lasley
TE: Kelce, Hooper, Butt, RSJ,
DL: Bosa, J.J. Watt, Danielle Hunter, Dante Fowler
LB: Alec Olgletree, Sean Lee, Raekwon McMillian, Darius Leonard,
DB: Landon Collins, Kenny Vaccaro, Josh Jones, Jabrill Peppers
Team 2: 12 PPR SuperFlex: Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SuperFlex, 2 Flex 25 Man Rosters
QB: Russell Wilson, Blake Bortles, Andy Dalton, Chad Kelly, Nathan Peterman
RB: Zeke, Bell, D. Booker, Jamaal Williams, T.J. Yeldon, Tavon Austin, Chase Edmonds, Alfred Blue, Chris Warren
WR: AJ Green, Golden Tate, Fitz, Godwin, Chris Hogan, Desean Jackson, Brandon Marshall, Jordan Lasley, Javon Wims, Deon Cain
TE: Kyle Rudolph, Austin Hooper, Butt
Re: Howard or 1.5+
I think it's pretty even, but I like the 1.5 side. I think Godwin begins to break out this year and bridges the gap between Howard and 1.5
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RB: I. Crowell, J. Williams, A. Abdullah, C.J. Anderson
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TE: D. Njoku, H. Henry, C. Herndon, G. Everett, I. Thomas, J. Leggett, W. Dissly
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TE: G. Kittle, I. Thomas, J Doyle, W. Dissly, J. Leggett, J. Gresham, T. Conklin
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RB: I. Crowell, J. Williams, A. Abdullah, C.J. Anderson
WR: C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, W. Fuller, M. Valdez-Scantling, D.J. Chark, E. St. Brown, J. Kumerow, R. Higgins, C. Meredith, J. Kearse
TE: D. Njoku, H. Henry, C. Herndon, G. Everett, I. Thomas, J. Leggett, W. Dissly
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Lineup: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, FLEX, OP
Re: Howard or 1.5+
I prefer the 1.05 to Howard straight up. There’s actually a decent possibility that the RB at 1.05 is Howard’s replacement. The 2.01 is much better than a random future 2nd, so you’d basically be giving away Godwin for nothing.
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
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$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
Re: Howard or 1.5+
No way. Howard has done well for the Bears despite having no passing threat to take guys out of the box. Bears also took Cohen in the 4th last year so they have the speedster they like to compliment Howard.
Also, Bears have so, so many holes on their team, they won't spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick to replace a guy who's doing plenty well enough.
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
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Re: Howard or 1.5+
All depends if anyone drops. If Penny is there in the 4th, or Kerryon Johnson in the 5th, could easily see them pull the trigger on either of those. Then Howard could just be this yrs Yeldon/Ware...value won't quite sink thru the floor like Yeldon's did, but you could prob cut it in half similar to what happened to Ware before his injury.hockeyBjj wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:40 pmNo way. Howard has done well for the Bears despite having no passing threat to take guys out of the box. Bears also took Cohen in the 4th last year so they have the speedster they like to compliment Howard.
Also, Bears have so, so many holes on their team, they won't spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick to replace a guy who's doing plenty well enough.