Exactly what I was thinking when I read that.UnsafeAtAnySpd wrote: ↑Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:00 amI'd much rather have Njoku/Miller.Iamwebb223 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:22 pmFWIW, I just landed M. Williams and DeDe Westbrook for L. Miller and Njoku.
Buy lows, targets & sleepers
Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
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2018 Champion, 2020 Champion
QB/2 RB/2 WR/1 TE/2 Flex/Defense/Kicker
QB: Allen, Watson, Fields
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Harris Chubb
WR: Ridley, Cooper, Thielen, M. Thomas, D. Smith, Boyd E. Moore, R. Moore, Reagor, St. Brown
TE: Kelce, Fant, Engram
Defense: Denver
Kicker: Gay
2022: None
2023: 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2018 Champion, 2020 Champion
QB/2 RB/2 WR/1 TE/2 Flex/Defense/Kicker
QB: Allen, Watson, Fields
RB: Barkley, Taylor, Harris Chubb
WR: Ridley, Cooper, Thielen, M. Thomas, D. Smith, Boyd E. Moore, R. Moore, Reagor, St. Brown
TE: Kelce, Fant, Engram
Defense: Denver
Kicker: Gay
2022: None
2023: 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
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Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
Agreed. Golladay isn't the greatest route-runner, but he can be 75% of what Calvin Johnson was on deep routes and 50/50 balls in the red zone, which are the types of throw Stafford excels at. I recently sold Kenyan Drake for Golladay and have high expectations.Heartwork wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:26 pm I'm not saying this just because I am a Lions fan, but hear me out. Kenny Golladay would be a good buy low. If he didn't miss 5 games due to injury I think we would be paying a pretty penny for him. He is tall, fast, makes amazing catches, young, tied to Stafford and I think he will be a WR 1 in a year or two. Mark it!
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
Most big names worth buying low is on my team...
Obj
Arob
Evans
Dj
Others (but are grossly overvalued in my league)
Mixon
Cook
Watkins
Obj
Arob
Evans
Dj
Others (but are grossly overvalued in my league)
Mixon
Cook
Watkins
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
Is DJ really a buy low? I don't know how an owner couldn't be asking for his post 2016 season price. He hurt his hand, it's not like he had a devastating knee injury.
12 team 0.5 pt PPR; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5
12 team 1 pt PPR SF IDP; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 3 Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1 IDP Flex
QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
2019 Picks: 1.05, 2.05, 3.05, 4.05, 5.05, 6.05, 7.05
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5
12 team 1 pt PPR SF IDP; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 3 Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1 IDP Flex
QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
2019 Picks: 1.05, 2.05, 3.05, 4.05, 5.05, 6.05, 7.05
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Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
The guy that jumps out to me as undervalued is Randall Cobb...He’s had great years with Rodgers before, and with Jordy gone I think he might catch more balls then Adams does...I get that Graham is there but the Packers have always used their TE’s to clear out those underneath routes for the backs and the slot receivers...And Cobb can play both of those positions...
Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
If anything I think Cobb is valued too high. This is a good time to sell him with Jordy gone and ARod healthy. He had one good year and hasn't shown much since.The Showstopper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:16 pm The guy that jumps out to me as undervalued is Randall Cobb...He’s had great years with Rodgers before, and with Jordy gone I think he might catch more balls then Adams does...I get that Graham is there but the Packers have always used their TE’s to clear out those underneath routes for the backs and the slot receivers...And Cobb can play both of those positions...
I just sold Cobb and 2.04 for Njoku in a complete rebuild
Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
Buy Lows - K.Golladay, T.Coleman and K.Dixon
Sleepers - M.Goodwin, W. Fuller and N. Agholor (basically the WR2 on their team with good QBs)
Targets....Maybe R.Cobb, E.Sanders and J.Crowder could fit into both above categories, especially if they have been forgotten about. They would be the ones to target!
Sleepers - M.Goodwin, W. Fuller and N. Agholor (basically the WR2 on their team with good QBs)
Targets....Maybe R.Cobb, E.Sanders and J.Crowder could fit into both above categories, especially if they have been forgotten about. They would be the ones to target!
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Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
"Buy-low" is all relative. I think 1.01 >= Johnson and would sell him for 1.01 straight up, so an owner could "buy low" from me if he thinks Johnson is worth 1.01+.
Kittles Pox | Championships: 2015, 2017
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
Re: Buy lows, targets & sleepers
I tried to pick some uncommon targets that could end up being solid under the radar pick ups and trades that don't carry as much of the hype as the Mixon/Ross/McKinnon type but can be had for significantly cheaper (in most cases).
Jordan Reed if you can get him cheap. He will likely only play half the year because he is perpetually injured, but he is an elite, week-winning TE when he is on the field. Also he now has Alex Smith throwing to him (king of the TE dump off). I wouldn't overpay for him but if you have a frustrated owner, it may be worth trying. Also, Vernon Davis for the same reasons (he'll play the half of the year that Reed is out). VD you can get for nothing as a throw in or maybe even on waivers if it's a shallow league.
Shaheen is a buy and hold. With Burton hype he's near free. I don't think Burton is elite by any means and he's getting older. TEs usually take 3 years to fulfill value anyway.
Marvin Jones was a top 12 WR last year and gets no respect. You may be able to nab him for a late-first, high-second.
Digging real deep, i'd take a flyer on Spencer Ware if he's available on waivers or as a toss in player. He was pretty darn good in KC before the injury and Hunt fell off after his huge start. This could be closer to a 60/40 (40 for ware) then people are thinking. There's a good chance they run more to make things easier for Mahommes. I think he can be at least a decent flex. If Hunt gets hurt, he can easily become their 3 down back again.
Ivory can be bought for nothing and would be the defacto 3-down back should McCoy get hurt (assuming they don't draft someone). He has shown he can put up good numbers in the past
Moncrief is on a prove it deal and plays to Bortles strengths, he's not a bad lottery ticket. Two years ago he had 100 yards or a TD in every game he and Luck played together. Bortles isn't Luck (not close) but he can get the ball to a receiver with reliable hands if he gets time to throw. With defenses selling out to stop Fournette, Moncrief is set up to be a potent deep threat.
Garcon missed the Garappolo games last year with injury. He could be a sneaky play for a good consistent WR2/Flex with opportunity for WR1 weeks.
Thielen fits the Crowder role for Cousins in MIN. I think he maintains wr2/flex value at least. His price may be too high after last season though.
Crabtree is the number 1 WR in Baltimore and put up held his own against Cooper in Oakland. John Brown is also there now and could be a good pickup too if he has the sickle cell figured out. Both of these players seemed to be viewed poorly in the fantasy community but have the talent and opportunity to put up good numbers.
While were on the Ravens, Ryan Grant actually does have sneaky good talent and could do well now that he is finally "healthy" after his sick day in Baltimore. He could easily take the number 2 in Indy with Luck throwing to him.
With the Kamara hype if you can buy Ingram for a bit cheaper, I'd jump all over that. I think Kamara sees his numbers dip quite a bit this year (his numbers were to good to keep up consistently, and even with those numbers Ingram was a top 6 RB) Ingram puts up consistent great numbers gets TDs, catches passes, can play all three downs (can pass block) and is an unrestricted FA in 2019 and yet because he's not the flashy new guy on his team people are looking to bail. Toss a first-round plus an upside guy with a good name like Garapollo/Mike Williams/Jimmy Graham/Ajayi and I think you could steal him and be very happy.
Doug Baldwin is consistently undervalued and SEA has literally nothing else and will be playing from behind after selling off their defense. He was top 13 last year and top 10 the year before, yet doesn't have the hype of others with his numbers.
Other targets previously mentioned: M. Mitchell/J. Matthews, Njoku, Drake, Hyde (even if Barkley goes there his contract is cheap enough to cut him after year one and have him end up somewhere else).
That's all ...for now
Jordan Reed if you can get him cheap. He will likely only play half the year because he is perpetually injured, but he is an elite, week-winning TE when he is on the field. Also he now has Alex Smith throwing to him (king of the TE dump off). I wouldn't overpay for him but if you have a frustrated owner, it may be worth trying. Also, Vernon Davis for the same reasons (he'll play the half of the year that Reed is out). VD you can get for nothing as a throw in or maybe even on waivers if it's a shallow league.
Shaheen is a buy and hold. With Burton hype he's near free. I don't think Burton is elite by any means and he's getting older. TEs usually take 3 years to fulfill value anyway.
Marvin Jones was a top 12 WR last year and gets no respect. You may be able to nab him for a late-first, high-second.
Digging real deep, i'd take a flyer on Spencer Ware if he's available on waivers or as a toss in player. He was pretty darn good in KC before the injury and Hunt fell off after his huge start. This could be closer to a 60/40 (40 for ware) then people are thinking. There's a good chance they run more to make things easier for Mahommes. I think he can be at least a decent flex. If Hunt gets hurt, he can easily become their 3 down back again.
Ivory can be bought for nothing and would be the defacto 3-down back should McCoy get hurt (assuming they don't draft someone). He has shown he can put up good numbers in the past
Moncrief is on a prove it deal and plays to Bortles strengths, he's not a bad lottery ticket. Two years ago he had 100 yards or a TD in every game he and Luck played together. Bortles isn't Luck (not close) but he can get the ball to a receiver with reliable hands if he gets time to throw. With defenses selling out to stop Fournette, Moncrief is set up to be a potent deep threat.
Garcon missed the Garappolo games last year with injury. He could be a sneaky play for a good consistent WR2/Flex with opportunity for WR1 weeks.
Thielen fits the Crowder role for Cousins in MIN. I think he maintains wr2/flex value at least. His price may be too high after last season though.
Crabtree is the number 1 WR in Baltimore and put up held his own against Cooper in Oakland. John Brown is also there now and could be a good pickup too if he has the sickle cell figured out. Both of these players seemed to be viewed poorly in the fantasy community but have the talent and opportunity to put up good numbers.
While were on the Ravens, Ryan Grant actually does have sneaky good talent and could do well now that he is finally "healthy" after his sick day in Baltimore. He could easily take the number 2 in Indy with Luck throwing to him.
With the Kamara hype if you can buy Ingram for a bit cheaper, I'd jump all over that. I think Kamara sees his numbers dip quite a bit this year (his numbers were to good to keep up consistently, and even with those numbers Ingram was a top 6 RB) Ingram puts up consistent great numbers gets TDs, catches passes, can play all three downs (can pass block) and is an unrestricted FA in 2019 and yet because he's not the flashy new guy on his team people are looking to bail. Toss a first-round plus an upside guy with a good name like Garapollo/Mike Williams/Jimmy Graham/Ajayi and I think you could steal him and be very happy.
Doug Baldwin is consistently undervalued and SEA has literally nothing else and will be playing from behind after selling off their defense. He was top 13 last year and top 10 the year before, yet doesn't have the hype of others with his numbers.
Other targets previously mentioned: M. Mitchell/J. Matthews, Njoku, Drake, Hyde (even if Barkley goes there his contract is cheap enough to cut him after year one and have him end up somewhere else).
That's all ...for now
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