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Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:41 pm
by quietloudness
My team:
Russell Wilson, Kizer, Bridgewater
J. Charles, Cohen, Darkwa, Joe Williams, Lacy
A-Brown, D. Parker, C. Coleman, Shephard, Robby A., Godwin, taylor, chad Williams
ASJ, Kittle, Hooper, Everett, Shaheen
1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.04, 3.05

His team:
Mariota, Carr, Brissett
Gurly, Bell, Fournette, Foreman, Carson, M. Brown, gallman
Martavis, Keelan Cole, Doctson, Evans, Green, Landry, Sanu
Ertz, gathers, Rico
1.01, 2.01, 2.02, 2.12

12 tream PPR, 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE, K / Def

He is looking for an upgrade at the WR position. I need upgrades everywhere, but badly at the RB position. I would like to send a solid offer using A-Brown as my basis for either Gurly or the 1.03, but openly admit to having a very strong value on A-Brown.

So I am looking for legit suggestions that help both our teams and is fair. I would like to get Barkley, but was thinking A-Brown for the 1.03 plus a couple of pieces. I am aware of the skyrocketing value of Barkley though, so not sure the correct value.

Any advise you can give would be appreciated as I am struggling on putting together an offer

Thank you

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:55 pm
by Generic Username
Gurley straight swap?

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:11 pm
by JJRules
Generic Username wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:55 pm Gurley straight swap?
Maybe Fournette, but Gurley or Bell in a one-for-one is probably unrealistic.

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:17 pm
by crip7300
AB and one of your 2nds for Fournette, Foreman, and Doctson

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:38 pm
by quietloudness
Generic Username wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:55 pm Gurley straight swap?
I had thought about that until I searched Brown and saw people saying Gurley was worth more now. I don't think it is a bad offer, but currently the trend seems to be Gurley>AB by about a second

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:40 pm
by pierson242
Spiller, Sjax, R. Bush

Solid RB core.

I wouldn't be going after a rb, your team is in rough shape. Sell him for picks and a younger WR1 and rebuild

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:12 pm
by Favrezilla
pierson242 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:40 pm Spiller, Sjax, R. Bush
look like Pierson read the wrong roster BUT his point is still valid...your RBs are hurting...after AB you are hurting for talent as well...

i would look to try and get Fournett and his pick or Gurley and add a little BUT you are probably creeping into rebuild with this roster and might want to start selling off pieces for high picks or going after buy lows and hope that you can sell high on a couple.

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:34 pm
by quietloudness
Favrezilla wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:12 pm
pierson242 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:40 pm Spiller, Sjax, R. Bush
look like Pierson read the wrong roster BUT his point is still valid...your RBs are hurting...after AB you are hurting for talent as well...

i would look to try and get Fournette and his pick or Gurley and add a little BUT you are probably creeping into rebuild with this roster and might want to start selling off pieces for high picks or going after buy lows and hope that you can sell high on a couple.
I'm kind of there, I think that is why I am looking at selling brown. If I am looking at current ADP - Brown is at 5, Barkley at 12 and Fournette at 17

What kind of value makes up the difference in those? I do also have some interest in Foreman. Are these close?

AB
for
LF, Foreman and 2.12?

Ab
for
1.01 (Barkley) and 2.01 (or Foreman?) (feels light, but.....unsure)

There is another team that is pretty stacked, has the 1.02, 1.06 and Corey Davis (probably 1.03 value still)

How close in value is
AB
for
1.02, Corey Davis (maybe future 2nd?)

I'm really just trying to make sure that when I engage in talks I am close in value as I just don't feel confident sometimes (like now)

Truly do appreciate the feedback

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:22 pm
by tom14cat14
I think you should let everyone know AB is on the block and to send offers. I would try and get young players such as Davis who the owner might be a little lower own and other young proven players. And go for 2019 picks. I think you will not get good value having a 2018 pick involved because people will value them too much. I had AB in my 1 rebuild and your 1.02 and Davis probably would not be enough for me to move AB but I bet that gets rejected right now because of timing.

Some targets off the top of my head would be: Evans, Adams, Cooper, Arob, Diggs...... I would go for these type of WR and then 2019 1st's plus other pieces. Just remember you have the best WR in the league. I sold him and regretted it because I should have waited and asked for more.

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:27 pm
by Favrezilla
quietloudness wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:34 pm
AB for 1.02, Corey Davis (maybe future 2nd?)
of the deals you listed this makes the most sense - id make it known to the league you are moving AB and go from there.

something like Mixon/Henry + young upside WR + early 1st or couple futures would be nice too

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:40 pm
by quietloudness
Thanks guys, just formally put him on the block, see what offers I get...........

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:27 pm
by Hahaclintondix
I’m with Pierson. Blow that team up and get more picks/young players for AB. A straight swap for a RB won’t do you any good.

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:13 pm
by jeaton6
Also I doubt that guy would do many of those trades. He’s loaded at RB and pretty solid at WR. I have a team like that where I have Gurley/Zeke/Bell/Henry/Coleman/1.1 and AJG/Hopkins/Cooks and wouldn’t move one of my stud RBs+ for an aging AB. If I’m moving one of them it’s in a deal for OBJ/Nuk, etc.

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:07 pm
by quietloudness
First offer in

AB
for
Sammy Watkins, 1.06 and a 2019 second (most likely late)

I'm very undecided on Sammy and the 1.06 does not really make me want to do that.

This owner also has the 1.02 and Amari Cooper

What are thoughts on these offers:

AB for Amari and 1.06
oe
AB for Sammy and the 1.02

Are they close and are they good deals for my team?

Re: Antonio Brown return?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:07 pm
by Cowboysfan33
I agree with most of the replies. You should probably trade AB and get the rebuild underway but just remember, don’t trade him for too low value because you can always hold him and get more out of him in the season. If you get a good/solid offer then by all means, go ahead but don’t give him away, just food for thought.