Antonio Brown return?

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Antonio Brown return?

Postby quietloudness » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:41 pm

My team:
Russell Wilson, Kizer, Bridgewater
J. Charles, Cohen, Darkwa, Joe Williams, Lacy
A-Brown, D. Parker, C. Coleman, Shephard, Robby A., Godwin, taylor, chad Williams
ASJ, Kittle, Hooper, Everett, Shaheen
1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.04, 3.05

His team:
Mariota, Carr, Brissett
Gurly, Bell, Fournette, Foreman, Carson, M. Brown, gallman
Martavis, Keelan Cole, Doctson, Evans, Green, Landry, Sanu
Ertz, gathers, Rico
1.01, 2.01, 2.02, 2.12

12 tream PPR, 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE, K / Def

He is looking for an upgrade at the WR position. I need upgrades everywhere, but badly at the RB position. I would like to send a solid offer using A-Brown as my basis for either Gurly or the 1.03, but openly admit to having a very strong value on A-Brown.

So I am looking for legit suggestions that help both our teams and is fair. I would like to get Barkley, but was thinking A-Brown for the 1.03 plus a couple of pieces. I am aware of the skyrocketing value of Barkley though, so not sure the correct value.

Any advise you can give would be appreciated as I am struggling on putting together an offer

Thank you
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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby Generic Username » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:55 pm

Gurley straight swap?

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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby JJRules » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:11 pm

Generic Username wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:55 pm
Gurley straight swap?
Maybe Fournette, but Gurley or Bell in a one-for-one is probably unrealistic.
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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby crip7300 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:17 pm

AB and one of your 2nds for Fournette, Foreman, and Doctson
Team 1
12 team Non PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Ryan Darnold Brady Minshew
RB Bell Gurley Chubb Conner AJones Kelley JRob Dillon
WR OBJ Parker Diontae Ruggs Claypool
TE Waller Cook

Team 2
12 team PPR .5 RB/WR, 1 TE
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex
QB Cam Darnold BigBen Herbert Love
RB Barkley Akers Bell DJ Gaskins Dillon
WR Juju Amari DJMoore Chark Parker Cooks Slayton Diontae Reagor
TE Kittle Hockenson

Team 3
12 Team Non PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex 1SF
QB Cam Darnold KAllen
RB Barkley Dillon
WR OBJ Evans Renfrow Slayton Diontae Shenault
TE Cook

Team 4
12 Team PPR
QB 2RB 2WR TE 3Flex
QB BigBen Tanny Herbert
RB Barkley Mixon Henry Conner JTaylor Gaskin
WR OBJ Juju DJMoore AJBrown Metcalf Diontae Edwards
TE Kittle Jonnu

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12 Team 34 Keeper
Superflex PPR RB 0.5, WR 1, TE 1.5
1QB 2RB 2WR TE 4Flex 1SF DEF
QB Baker Darnold Carr
RB Barkley Sony Ingram Akers

WR Juju OBJ DJMoore AJBrown Deebo
TE Howard Herndon Jonnu

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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby quietloudness » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:38 pm

Generic Username wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:55 pm
Gurley straight swap?
I had thought about that until I searched Brown and saw people saying Gurley was worth more now. I don't think it is a bad offer, but currently the trend seems to be Gurley>AB by about a second
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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby DLF_Pierson » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:40 pm

Spiller, Sjax, R. Bush

Solid RB core.

I wouldn't be going after a rb, your team is in rough shape. Sell him for picks and a younger WR1 and rebuild
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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby Favrezilla » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:12 pm

pierson242 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:40 pm
Spiller, Sjax, R. Bush
look like Pierson read the wrong roster BUT his point is still valid...your RBs are hurting...after AB you are hurting for talent as well...

i would look to try and get Fournett and his pick or Gurley and add a little BUT you are probably creeping into rebuild with this roster and might want to start selling off pieces for high picks or going after buy lows and hope that you can sell high on a couple.
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (11th year)
2020: 4-4 || 3 time runner-up
QB: Mahomes, Wentz, Stafford, Burrow
RB: Chubb, Henry, Mixon, Mike Davis,
WR: ARob, DJ Moore, Hollywood, Fulgham, AB, Williams, Davis, Alshon, Shep
TE: Ertz, Jonnu
Picks: 2021: 1, 2, 2, 3

T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (8th year)
2020: 5-3 || 2017: champ || 2018 & 19: Runner-up
QB: Wentz, Brees, Fitz, Winston
RB: Miles, Mixon, Henry, Gurley, Michel, Hyde
WR: Keenan, Evans, ARob, Juju, Parker, Davis, Robby, Preston, Tyler,
TE: Gronk, Goedert, Kmet
Picks: 2021: 1, 2, 2, 3

T.3 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (1st year)
2020: 4-4
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Darnald, Winston
RB: Sanders, JT, Kelley, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Robby, Claypool, Pittman, Fulgham, Reagor, Mims, MW, Preston
TE: Fant, hock
Picks: 2021: 1, 2, 3

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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby quietloudness » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:34 pm

Favrezilla wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:12 pm
pierson242 wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:40 pm
Spiller, Sjax, R. Bush
look like Pierson read the wrong roster BUT his point is still valid...your RBs are hurting...after AB you are hurting for talent as well...

i would look to try and get Fournette and his pick or Gurley and add a little BUT you are probably creeping into rebuild with this roster and might want to start selling off pieces for high picks or going after buy lows and hope that you can sell high on a couple.
I'm kind of there, I think that is why I am looking at selling brown. If I am looking at current ADP - Brown is at 5, Barkley at 12 and Fournette at 17

What kind of value makes up the difference in those? I do also have some interest in Foreman. Are these close?

AB
for
LF, Foreman and 2.12?

Ab
for
1.01 (Barkley) and 2.01 (or Foreman?) (feels light, but.....unsure)

There is another team that is pretty stacked, has the 1.02, 1.06 and Corey Davis (probably 1.03 value still)

How close in value is
AB
for
1.02, Corey Davis (maybe future 2nd?)

I'm really just trying to make sure that when I engage in talks I am close in value as I just don't feel confident sometimes (like now)

Truly do appreciate the feedback
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Julio, Maclin, Decker, Cruz,
Gresham, Olsen

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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby tom14cat14 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:22 pm

I think you should let everyone know AB is on the block and to send offers. I would try and get young players such as Davis who the owner might be a little lower own and other young proven players. And go for 2019 picks. I think you will not get good value having a 2018 pick involved because people will value them too much. I had AB in my 1 rebuild and your 1.02 and Davis probably would not be enough for me to move AB but I bet that gets rejected right now because of timing.

Some targets off the top of my head would be: Evans, Adams, Cooper, Arob, Diggs...... I would go for these type of WR and then 2019 1st's plus other pieces. Just remember you have the best WR in the league. I sold him and regretted it because I should have waited and asked for more.

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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby Favrezilla » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:27 pm

quietloudness wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:34 pm

AB for 1.02, Corey Davis (maybe future 2nd?)
of the deals you listed this makes the most sense - id make it known to the league you are moving AB and go from there.

something like Mixon/Henry + young upside WR + early 1st or couple futures would be nice too
T.1 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex (11th year)
2020: 4-4 || 3 time runner-up
QB: Mahomes, Wentz, Stafford, Burrow
RB: Chubb, Henry, Mixon, Mike Davis,
WR: ARob, DJ Moore, Hollywood, Fulgham, AB, Williams, Davis, Alshon, Shep
TE: Ertz, Jonnu
Picks: 2021: 1, 2, 2, 3

T.2 - 12 team Superflex- 1xQB - 2xRB - 3xWR - 1xTE - 1xSFlex - 1xWRT Flex (8th year)
2020: 5-3 || 2017: champ || 2018 & 19: Runner-up
QB: Wentz, Brees, Fitz, Winston
RB: Miles, Mixon, Henry, Gurley, Michel, Hyde
WR: Keenan, Evans, ARob, Juju, Parker, Davis, Robby, Preston, Tyler,
TE: Gronk, Goedert, Kmet
Picks: 2021: 1, 2, 2, 3

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2020: 4-4
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Darnald, Winston
RB: Sanders, JT, Kelley, Jamaal
WR: Godwin, Robby, Claypool, Pittman, Fulgham, Reagor, Mims, MW, Preston
TE: Fant, hock
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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby quietloudness » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:40 pm

Thanks guys, just formally put him on the block, see what offers I get...........
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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby Hahaclintondix » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:27 pm

I’m with Pierson. Blow that team up and get more picks/young players for AB. A straight swap for a RB won’t do you any good.

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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby jeaton6 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:13 pm

Also I doubt that guy would do many of those trades. He’s loaded at RB and pretty solid at WR. I have a team like that where I have Gurley/Zeke/Bell/Henry/Coleman/1.1 and AJG/Hopkins/Cooks and wouldn’t move one of my stud RBs+ for an aging AB. If I’m moving one of them it’s in a deal for OBJ/Nuk, etc.
Team 1: 12 Team PPR: QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/Flex 25+3 Taxi (Keep 20)
QB: Wentz, Dak, Cousins, Brady, , Foles
RB: Gurley, McCaffrey, Mixon, Penny, Michel, McCoy, Dam. Williams
WR: Tyreek, Juju, Corey Davis, Landry, Thielen, Golladay, Sutton, Washington, Hamilton
TE: Engram, Howard, Burton
PK: Zeurlein, Fairbanks
DEF: TBD
2019: 1.6, 1.9, 1.10, 1.12, 2.10, 2.11, 2.12, 3.1, 3.6, 3.8, 3.10, 3.12

Team 2: 12 Team PPR: QB/2 RB/2 WR/TE/2 Flex
QB: Luck, Mariota, Trubisky, Lamar Jackson, Foles
RB: Bell, Elliott, Gurley, Barkley, Penny, Chubb, Henry, CJA
WR: Green, Hopkins, Cooks, Sutton, M. Jones, Cobb, DT
TE: Howard, Hooper, Gesecki
2019: 1.1, 1.2, 1.8, 1.11, 3.2 2020: 2 1’s

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RB: Elliott, Hunt, Michel, Chubb, Rojo, Edwards, Dam. Williams
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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby quietloudness » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:07 pm

First offer in

AB
for
Sammy Watkins, 1.06 and a 2019 second (most likely late)

I'm very undecided on Sammy and the 1.06 does not really make me want to do that.

This owner also has the 1.02 and Amari Cooper

What are thoughts on these offers:

AB for Amari and 1.06
oe
AB for Sammy and the 1.02

Are they close and are they good deals for my team?
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Re: Antonio Brown return?

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:07 pm

I agree with most of the replies. You should probably trade AB and get the rebuild underway but just remember, don’t trade him for too low value because you can always hold him and get more out of him in the season. If you get a good/solid offer then by all means, go ahead but don’t give him away, just food for thought.


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