Thielen value

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Thielen value

Postby darewood11 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:10 am

Sent out an offer for team 1 in sig where I trade thielen for 1.04. Wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this
12 team ppr 25 man roster
1qb 1rb 2wr 1te 2 flex 1dst

Qb- jackson Prescott
Rb- Gurley Mixon justice hill mattison lamar miller Pollard riddick
Wr- Evans cooper landry john brown shepherd miller fitz ross
Te- hooper Hockenson Herndon akins burton
Dst- Broncos titans

Team 2
12 team ppr 25 man roster 
1qb 1rb 1wr 1te 4 flex
Qb Wentz Winston Rosen
Rb zeke Gordon ekeler mixon guice montgomery mckinnon
Wr woods ridley kirk agholor callaway grant zay jones moore reynolds
Te engram dissly

Team 3
12 team ppr 1qb 1rb 1wr 1te 3 flex 1 dst 1k

QB- Mayfield eli
Rb- hunt harris miller peterson Jackson armstead rodney Anderson
Wr- conley pettis trequan smith beasley james washington Hakeem butler
Te-andrews hurst McDonald
Dst-chargers ravens

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Re: Thielen value

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:44 am

i do that, especially if i need rb. thielen is solid though but i think thats a strong enough offer to ship him off. heck even if you wanna go wr you probably get the #1 wr of the class at 1.04
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
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team 4
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team 5
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team 6
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Re: Thielen value

Postby saw061600 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:27 am

Doubt it gets accepted. Thielen is wicked undervalued.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Lamar Winston TruB Finley Mariota
Bell Chubb DFreeman Sony DMonty RFreeman RoJo Gio Hines Snell
Evans Cooper ARob Boyd Watkins Agholor NHarry MWill JJAW Isabella Keke AMiller
Kelce Andrews Jimmy Jonnu
Watt Ansah Williams Richardson Taylor Graham
Davis Collins Mosley Kendricks Bucannon DCampbell DJones DLee Compton
Adams Vaccaro Joseph Iloka McLeod Williams

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Dak Rivers Dalton Rudolph
Mixon DHenry Penny Shady Duke Ekeler Snell Armstead
Julio Cooks Cooper ARob DK Isabella Stills KeeSean Agholor Callaway
Kelce Andrews
Hunter Barnett Clark Burns
Williamson Warner Perryman Milano Campbell Baker ShaqT Jewell Kendricks
Budda JJohnson Thornhill Vaccaro

12TM .5PPR 45RST
Wilson Rivers Dalton
Freeman Henry AP JHow Ajayi Nyheim Ito Justice Snell Barnes Tvon
Cooks Amari ARob Landry Watkins Keke Samuel JJAW Isabella
Ertz Andrews Herndon
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Re: Thielen value

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:35 am

That's what it would take me to move Thielen, so I think its even and depends on what the rest of your team looks like

Your team needs a bit of work, and I think it'd be smart as then you get either a top back, or the #1 WR of the class. Someone else can use Thielen to shore up their team if they're more set
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE, (a TE2 can flex for RB3 or WR3), 1D, 1K
2019: 5th place :wall:
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram,Devonta Freeman, Damien Williams, Hyde
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju Smith Jarvis Landry, T Boyd, G Tate, D Slayton, A Miller, T
TE: George Kittle, Rudolph, V McDonald, Dwelley
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans, Jax Siebert CLE
Taxi- D Henderson, A Mattison, B Snell
picks- 2020 1.05, 2.06, 4.06, 5.06 5 2021- 1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
Threepeat Champs 8-)
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Haskins
RB: CMC, D Cook, Kamara, D Henry, Gurley, T Cohen, Yeldon, P Barber, M Brown, Riddick,
WR:Hopkins, Diggs, Golloday, Edelman, Arob, Fuller, Westbrook, Hurns, Wright, Dorsett, Higgins, T Patrick, M Harris
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Dissly, Legget
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picks- 2020- 0 2021- 3,4,5

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Re: Thielen value

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:36 am

saw061600 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:27 am
Doubt it gets accepted. Thielen is wicked undervalued.
I think this finally, finally changed 2nd half of the season. I was seeing polls that had Thielen ranked above Diggs. I traded Thielen week 4, when I thought he was just on a nice hot stream and wouldn't keep it up, for a late first that ended up being 1.8 and I get that rubbed in my face like it was a big steal by him
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE, (a TE2 can flex for RB3 or WR3), 1D, 1K
2019: 5th place :wall:
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Russell Wilson
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram,Devonta Freeman, Damien Williams, Hyde
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju Smith Jarvis Landry, T Boyd, G Tate, D Slayton, A Miller, T
TE: George Kittle, Rudolph, V McDonald, Dwelley
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans, Jax Siebert CLE
Taxi- D Henderson, A Mattison, B Snell
picks- 2020 1.05, 2.06, 4.06, 5.06 5 2021- 1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
Threepeat Champs 8-)
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Haskins
RB: CMC, D Cook, Kamara, D Henry, Gurley, T Cohen, Yeldon, P Barber, M Brown, Riddick,
WR:Hopkins, Diggs, Golloday, Edelman, Arob, Fuller, Westbrook, Hurns, Wright, Dorsett, Higgins, T Patrick, M Harris
TE: Kelce, Andrews, Dissly, Legget
Taxi-
picks- 2020- 0 2021- 3,4,5

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Re: Thielen value

Postby RB6 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:04 am

Early 1st. So the 1.04 is the low end of his value. Could get accepted.
Team 1
10 Team Devy SF .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Watson, Wilson, Tannehill, Lock, Grier
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Pascal, S. Sims
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Boone, Gaskin
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Higbee
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, G. Tate, A. Miller, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, Perriman, S. Sims, ESB
RB: Zeke, Jacobs, Carson, Darwin, Armstead, De. Washington, R. Anderson, Homer
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

Team 3
12 Team SF PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Carr, Mullens, Stick
RB: Chubb, Fournette, KJ, D. Freeman, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Adams
WR: Allen, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, A. Miller, G. Tate, Crowder, A. Tate, Pascal, Hamilton, S. Sims, ESB
TE: Andrews, Thomas

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Re: Thielen value

Postby HughHoney » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:11 am

RB6 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:04 am
Early 1st. So the 1.04 is the low end of his value. Could get accepted.
Agree with this. If I’m contending and/or need WR, I prefer Thielen. If rebuilding and/or need RB, I might take the pick.
12 Team, 24-man Roster, 3-man TS, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 DEF

QB: Wilson, Luck, Finley
RB: Da Johnson, Kamara, Gordon, J White, Hines, Samuels, Gio, Love, C Edmonds
WR: OBJ, Cooper, Kupp, Watkins, Pettis, Coutee, Deebo Samuel, Diontae Johnson, A Miller, K Harmon, Funchess, John Brown, D Thomas, J Meyers
TE: Kittle, Graham, Waller
DEF: KCC

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Re: Thielen value

Postby Goddard » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:31 am

I'd take the 1.04, but seems like fair value.

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Re: Thielen value

Postby Needalife » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:56 am

With uncertainty around QB situation, I would sell Thielen for 1.07 or better and buy for 1.08 or later at the moment. I might slide that back after landing spots and combine risers are established.

I love Thielen's game but I felt like Bradford favors Diggs/Rudolph, Bridgewater favors Diggs and Keenum favors Thielen. I'm skeptical that the Vikes retain Keenum.
TEAM 1 - 12 TEAM PPR TE PREMIUM - 1 QB / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 3 FX / 1 DL / 2 LB / 2 DB / 1 DFX
QB: Deshaun Watson, Matthew Stafford, Daniel Jones
RB: Joe Mixon, Darrell Henderson, Gio Bernard, Traveon Williams
WR: Courtland Suttion, Mike Williams, DK Metcalf, Parris Campbell, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, DaeSean Hamilton, Keke Coutee
TE: Hunter Henry, Dallas Goedert, Dawson Knox, Jonnu Smith, Ian Thomas, Jordan Thomas, Drew Sample
DL: Jason Pierre-Paul, Josh Allen
LB: Darius Leonard, Leighton Vander Esch, De'Vondre Campbell, Telvin Smith, Matt Milano
DB: Jordan Poyer, Tracy Walker, Tavon Wilson, Darnell Savage
2020 PICKS: 1.01, 1.06, 1.07, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, 2.12, 3.01, 3.07, 4.01, 4.12
2021 PICKS: 1st. 1st. 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Thielen value

Postby RestoreTheRoar » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:04 pm

It's probably a fair trade. Would just be a matter of how you feel about your ability to draft. You know what you're getting with Thielen. Most drafts aren't like last years. This class looks pretty good but you just never know with rookies.
12 Team 0.5 PPR. 25 man roster. Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex.
QB - Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford
RB - Leondard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey, Jamaal Williams, Chris Carson, CJ Prosise
WR - Keenan Allen, Davante Adams, Tyreek Hill, Mike Williams, Kenny Golladay, Chirs Godwin, Keelan Cole, Quincy Enunwa
TE - Zach Ertz, Eric Ebron, Austin Seferian-Jenkins

2018 Picks - 1.01, 2.04

16 Team 0.5 PPR. 20 man roster. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex.
QB - Marcus Mariota, Trevor Siemian
RB - Leonard Fournette, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alex Collins
WR - AJ Green, TY Hilton, Donte Moncrief, Davante Adams, Will Fuller, Malcolm Mitchell, Kenny Golladay
TE - Austin Hooper, Austin Seferian-Jenkins, George Kittle

2018 Picks - None

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Re: Thielen value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:29 pm

RestoreTheRoar wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:04 pm
It's probably a fair trade. Would just be a matter of how you feel about your ability to draft. You know what you're getting with Thielen. Most drafts aren't like last years. This class looks pretty good but you just never know with rookies.
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The 1.04 is fair, both sides of this deal should feel good about it.
TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Haskins, Lock, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/BELL, Gurley, D Washington, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, M Davis, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Hilton, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, Waller, Irv, Herndon, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Brissett, Rosen, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Edelman, R Anderson, A Tate, Coutee, G Ward
KITTLE, Ian Thomas, James O
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Re: Thielen value

Postby The.Big.Spank » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:33 pm

Goddard wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:31 am
I'd take the 1.04, but seems like fair value.
This, but it's hard for me to see him being a consistent WR2 because he is a slot receiver and on the field for only 60% of the plays. Also Diggs was injured a bit this year which may have helped his target share. I don't think you will ever see him as a WR1 ever again. Giving up the 1.4 for a slot receiver on a run first team seems a touch steep, but like Goddard says, seems like fair value.
10 Team, 1 pt PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex

QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB: Gurley, Barkley, Elliott, Edmonds,
WR: M. Thomas, JuJu, Godwin, Adams, Whiteside, P. Williams
TE: Henry,Waller, Hockinson

2020 1.5,6,8,10 firsts

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Re: Thielen value

Postby Motay316 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:50 pm

I feel like 1.04 is good value, I have thielen and would hate to move him for a lottery ticket but I think Thielen has reached his ceiling, it's probably a good idea to cash out at this point. To go from a guy that was probably picked up off the free agent wire to getting the 1.04 for him is pretty good return on investment.
Team A-1 Pt PPR, 1 Pt per 10yds rec, rushing, 1 Pt 30 yds passing, 6 Pts per TD, 2 pts per tackle
QB-Cousins, Tannehill, Fitzpatrick
RB-McCaffrey, Chubb, Henry, Peterson, Murray
WR-Allen,Diggs, Jeffrey, E.Sanders, Crowder, Edelman, Harry,
TE-Andrews, Henry
K-Gostkowski
DL-Watt, Hunter, Houston
LB-Kuechley, Kwon Alexander, Deion Jones, Mosely, T. Smith, Hitchins, Cunningham
DB-Buddah Baker, Jamal Adams, Harrison Smith, White

Team B-1 Pt PPR, 1 Pt per 10yds rec, rushing, 1 Pt 30 yds passing, 6 Pts per TD, 2 pts per tackle
QB-L. Jackson,Watson, Cousins, Haskins
RB-Ingram,Coleman, Carson, Guice, Penny, Sanders, Singletary
WR-Diggs, Cooks, Crowder, McLauren, Diontae Johnson
TE-Andrews,Howard, Olson, Fells
K-McManus
DL- Buckner, Houston, Casey
LB-Jaylon Smith, Hendricks, White, Alexander, Foster
DB- Peppers, Reid, Jenkins, White
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Re: Thielen value

Postby HughHoney » Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:52 pm

The.Big.Spank wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:33 pm
Goddard wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:31 am
I'd take the 1.04, but seems like fair value.
This, but it's hard for me to see him being a consistent WR2 because he is a slot receiver and on the field for only 60% of the plays. Also Diggs was injured a bit this year which may have helped his target share. I don't think you will ever see him as a WR1 ever again. Giving up the 1.4 for a slot receiver on a run first team seems a touch steep, but like Goddard says, seems like fair value.
This just isn’t true. Thielen was on the field for 93% of the Vikings offensive snaps. He played more snaps than Diggs in every week they both played except week 14 when Diggs had one more snap.
12 Team, 24-man Roster, 3-man TS, PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 DEF

QB: Wilson, Luck, Finley
RB: Da Johnson, Kamara, Gordon, J White, Hines, Samuels, Gio, Love, C Edmonds
WR: OBJ, Cooper, Kupp, Watkins, Pettis, Coutee, Deebo Samuel, Diontae Johnson, A Miller, K Harmon, Funchess, John Brown, D Thomas, J Meyers
TE: Kittle, Graham, Waller
DEF: KCC

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Re: Thielen value

Postby jwb32 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:23 pm

Thielen had 143 targets.....that is an elite level number. I just don't see that as sustainable. I'd value him in 1.07-1.08 range.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Rivers, Jackson
RBs- Mixon, Cook, Sanders, Montgomery, RoJo, Murray, Dexter W, Brian Hill
WRs- OBJ, Hilton, Cooks, Watkins, Crowder, Diontae Johnson, DMoore, Butler
TEs- McDonald, Fant, Waller, Rudolph
2020 1st

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rodgers, Stafford, Foles
RBs- Zeke, Cook, Hunt, Edwards, Armstead,
WRs- Adams, Boyd, Cooks, Samuel, Crowder, Slayton, Lazard, Boykin, Coutee
TEs- Hooper, Howard, Holister, Olsen, Thomas

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Stafford,Rivers,Fitz,Tyrod
RBs- Cook, Singletary, DamienW, Coleman, Penny, Murray, Snell
WRs- Evans, Allen, Boyd, Sutton,Gallup,Samuel,Preston,Crowder
TEs- Waller,Njoku,Jonnu,Herndon,Moreau
2020 - 1.08,1.09


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