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thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:55 am
by hjernazian
team that John Ross is pretty atrocious, he is looking to rebuild next year with two first rounders (one his, hence the incentive to tanking - no penalties for this in our league). Take a look at my sig, I've made multiple deals with this owner before, landing me D. Freeman and H. Henry (traded away), what package of players can I offer? I'm thinking maybe D. Murray, Ty Montg, OR Njoku straight up.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am
by ThatGuyBrian
He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:36 am
by hjernazian
ThatGuyBrian wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am
He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.
where do you equate his value with the "IF" though? He can be had for relatively cheap imo, but what's cheap? I'm thinking a high 3rd rounder? Or for a D. Murray or James White?

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:42 am
by RBlivesmatter
hjernazian wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:55 am
team that John Ross is pretty atrocious, he is looking to rebuild next year with two first rounders (one his, hence the incentive to tanking - no penalties for this in our league). Take a look at my sig, I've made multiple deals with this owner before, landing me D. Freeman and H. Henry (traded away), what package of players can I offer? I'm thinking maybe D. Murray, Ty Montg, OR Njoku straight up.
Weren’t there reports they might make him into a CB?

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:17 am
by SpartyOn
The outlook for players that can't even get on the field is not good. I would prefer every player you named above over Ross.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:52 am
by ThatGuyBrian
hjernazian wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:36 am
ThatGuyBrian wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am
He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.
where do you equate his value with the "IF" though? He can be had for relatively cheap imo, but what's cheap? I'm thinking a high 3rd rounder? Or for a D. Murray or James White?
In a league I am in a guy just traded a late second for him. If I were trading from him I wouldn't give anything higher than a third for him.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:06 am
by BeeziBad
you could trade any of those guys you mentioned for someone much better, who actually gets playing time. if you're stuck on ross, trade any of those guys strait but make sure to get a decent pick added. don't cheat yourself.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:13 am
by BradysBunch
There are players I just stay away from. Ross is one of them.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:38 am
by jman3134
Marvin Lewis is back again. Therefore John Toss.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:30 am
by McCloskey22
I would equate John Ross to a piece of garbage you find on the side of the road

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:40 am
by hjernazian
McCloskey22 wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:30 am
I would equate John Ross to a piece of garbage you find on the side of the road
lol, seems unanimous. I don't like Lewis and I like the Bengals overall even less. Just was thinking may be nice to land him for cheap, but there are other candidates for that.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:45 pm
by Goddard
I definitely wouldn't move Njoku for him, but if you can get him for Murray and Monty, that would be a pretty solid deal.

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:12 am
by block2323
Ross is not someone I would be targeting...he's overrated imo just because he ran a fast 40 time. Wonder where I have seen that over blown before...

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:23 am
by gunzwil guinea pigs
I would pay a late 2nd or I would give up demarco straight up

Re: thoughts on john ross?

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:29 pm
by skip
This is a very interesting thread as a year ago I felt I was one of the lone voices who felt Ross was extremely overrated and viewed his future solely as a special teams player.