thoughts on john ross?

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby jman3134 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:52 pm

Whether or not he could have been a serviceable NFL player, we probably will never know. He won't likely be given a role like Tavon Austin with the same coaching staff coming back. Will he catch on with another team? It would be difficult.
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
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Rb: Saquon Barkley, Austin Ekeler, Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Matt Breida, Cam Akers, Chase Edmonds, David Johnson, D'onta Foreman
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Laviska Shenault, Julian Edelman, Diontae Johnson, John Brown, Keelan Cole, Darnell Mooney, Jalen Guyton, Travis Fulgham, Jakobi Meyers, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Richie James, Cam Sims, Dezmon Patmon
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby vixen » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:11 pm

i would send demarco murray, but i am not sure why a rebuilding team would take that....i guess i wouldn't mind sending ty montgomery for him...
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qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
mahomes, Dan Jones
kamara, mack, lindsay,Love, Pollard
antonio, AJG, thielen, sutton, kirk, Hurd, JJAW, Slayton, Gage
Hooper, Herndon
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DHenry, DJ, DFreeman, McKinnon, Darwin Thompson, CEH, JT/Mack
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Sutton,Jo Brown, Boyd, ]JJAW, Harmon, Preston Williams, Coulter, Collin Johnson
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also .1pt per return yd/.05 per attempt
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby darewood11 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:27 pm

John ross is like tavon Austin's little brother...ur betting on basicly just speed
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1qb 1rb 2wr 1te 2 flex 1dst

Qb- jackson daniel jones
Rb- Gurley Mixon drake justice hill mattison Pollard riddick dallas
Wr- Adams Evans cooper cooks john brown shepherd fitz ross gandy golden
Te- ertz hooper Herndon akins burton
Dst- Broncos titans

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1qb 1rb 1wr 1te 4 flex
Qb Wentz Winston l
Rb zeke ekeler mixon swift mckinnon snell pollard
Wr woods sutton kirk Lamb brown miller Jeffery Allison agholor miller Davis hightower
Te engram gronk dissly

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QB- ryan Winston
Rb- JT dobbins sanders harris freeman Jackson
Wr- juju hollywood shenault Edwards cephus gandy Golden gabe Davis slayton van Jefferson
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby hjernazian » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:59 am

so the consensus is send d. murray or ty. montg for ross? i have nothing to lose with sending murray and doubt he bites, although he thinks his team is better than it is. as far as ty - the pass catching role under the best QB in the league makes him very valuable to me.

for referance, this is his team. and i just secured a trade with him sending james white and damian williams for 2.05. in a previous thread, i mentioned that i had to cut 5 guys to get under the roster requirement (2 guys were on IR in Cook and Monty) and would have to cut them if i couldn't move them. he also has cuttable players and is looking for a 2-for-1 imo (him receiving 2 and me 1). As a side - he's the least knowledgable in the league - i've sent him guys like white, williams, moncrief, r. matthews, brate, hooper, fuller (fuller was an error on my end and was pre-d. watson but landed me the of package d. freeman)

Dalton, Andy CIN QB 241.90 6 $3.00 2 Trade
Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 296.70 9 $6.00 2 Trade
Abdullah, Ameer DET RB 125.40 7 $11.00 2 Trade
Bell, Le'Veon PIT RB 343.60 9 $52.80 2 Trade
McNichols, Jeremy SFO RB 0.00 11 $2.00 1 Trade
Murray, Latavius MIN RB 157.50 9 $14.00 2 Trade
Washington, DeAndre OAK RB 86.00 10 $2.00 2 Trade
White, James NEP RB (Q) 134.00 9 $2.00 2 Trade
Williams, Damien MIA RB 59.60 1 $2.00 2 Trade
Fuller, Will HOU WR (Q) 113.20 7 $7.00 2 Trade
Ginn Jr., Ted NOS WR 159.60 5 $2.00 2 Trade
Green, A.J. CIN WR 228.80 6 $45.15 2 Trade
Hansen, Chad NYJ WR 18.40 11 $1.00 1 Trade
Matthews, Rishard TEN WR 156.20 8 $4.00 2 Trade
Moncrief, Donte IND WR 77.10 11 $25.00 1 Trade
Ross, John CIN WR (I) 0.20 6 $4.00 1 Trade
Tate, Golden DET WR 223.50 7 $11.00 2 Trade
Woods, Robert LAR WR 164.30 8 $2.00 2 Trade
Brate, Cameron TBB TE 143.10 1 $2.00 2 Trade
Hooper, Austin ATL TE 119.60 5 $2.00 2 Trade
Reed, Jordan WAS TE (I) 60.10 5 $13.20 2 Trade
Bullock, Randy CIN PK 93.40 6 $1.00 1 Trade
Eagles, Philadelphia PHI Def 97.00 10 $1.00 2 Trade
Redskins, Washington WAS Def 62.00 5 $1.00 1 Trade
24 TOTAL PLAYERS
INJURED RESERVE
Edelman, Julian NEP WR (I) - 9 $17.20 2 Trade
Clay, Charles BUF TE 116.80 6 $3.00 2 Trade
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WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
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RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:31 am

i cant believe the level of hatred for this guy. idk i like to give 3 years to a top 10 nfl pick but hey maybe thats just me
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
J Allen , Herbert, Rivers
Kamara, B Hill, Akers,McNichols, Dillon, Cohen, McCoy
K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Teddy B, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Burkhead, Mostert, wilson jr
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans,AROB, C Davis, Watkins, Edleman, Higgins
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Baker, Wentz, Foles, K Allen
Kamara, Henry, Chubb, Bell, Murray, Coleman
M Thomas, K Allen, M Evans, JuJu, Cooper, Watkins
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:32 am

jman3134 wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:52 pm
Whether or not he could have been a serviceable NFL player, we probably will never know. He won't likely be given a role like Tavon Austin with the same coaching staff coming back. Will he catch on with another team? It would be difficult.
you know he JUST finished his rookie season correct?
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
J Allen , Herbert, Rivers
Kamara, B Hill, Akers,McNichols, Dillon, Cohen, McCoy
K Allen, Hopkins,McLaurin, AROB M Williams,MVS
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Teddy B, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Burkhead, Mostert, wilson jr
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans,AROB, C Davis, Watkins, Edleman, Higgins
Ertz, Gronk, Fant, everett, albert o


team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Baker, Wentz, Foles, K Allen
Kamara, Henry, Chubb, Bell, Murray, Coleman
M Thomas, K Allen, M Evans, JuJu, Cooper, Watkins
Hurst, Gronk, Ebron, Everett
Payne/Onyemata
Campbell, Ogbah, J Allen, Clowney, Armstead
Martinez, J Smith, Z Smith, Jack, Judon, C Jones (IR)
Alexander, Dean, Ward
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby Johnny Canuck » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:13 am

Feel like Ross will be fine. At the very least, I'll reserve judgement until I see what he can do after a full healthy offseason program.

Hopefully, Lewis changes his utilization of Ross but that's a wait and see type of situation. Gotta give the kid a chance to succeed before you can say he's garbage, he's barely even seen the field. Remember when everyone thought Adams and Agholor were terrible and traded them for pennies...potentially the same situation here
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby flyersfan1981 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:13 pm

Hard to have any confidence in a guy who was hurt often and then couldn't even make it thru the 40-yard dash at the combine without getting hurt.

I wouldn't give up Ty Montgomery or Njoku for him...maybe Murray.
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby Favrezilla » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:18 pm

hes bustier than a centerfold
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WR: ARob, DJ Moore, Godwin, AB, Williams, Davis,
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby PigeonBoys » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:38 pm

Yuck on Ross, never liked his fantasy value. He's seems like a Tavon Austin type guy and those kinds of players have not fared well in the NFL. He's the kind of guy teams need to manufacture touches for and those touches are never consistent. Don't get me wrong, guy is gifted physically, but just seems like a straight line speed guy. I think people got caught up in his 40 time and automatically think that makes him a good football player.
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby Johnny Canuck » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:33 pm

PigeonBoys wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:38 pm
Yuck on Ross, never liked his fantasy value. He's seems like a Tavon Austin type guy and those kinds of players have not fared well in the NFL. He's the kind of guy teams need to manufacture touches for and those touches are never consistent. Don't get me wrong, guy is gifted physically, but just seems like a straight line speed guy. I think people got caught up in his 40 time and automatically think that makes him a good football player.
Needing manufactured touches isn't exactly a bad thing. The #4 WR this year needed manufactured touches (Tyreek Hill - who also has similar athletic ability). Also, the kid isn't just a straight line runner, he's got agility, and will make one cut and is gone.

Might wanna refresh yourself with some of his washington highlights to remind yourself...the kid went top 10 in the draft for a reason ppl. Buy now for cheap cheap cheap and thank me in two yrs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnz6MPmtp4E
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby jman3134 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:41 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:32 am
jman3134 wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:52 pm
Whether or not he could have been a serviceable NFL player, we probably will never know. He won't likely be given a role like Tavon Austin with the same coaching staff coming back. Will he catch on with another team? It would be difficult.
you know he JUST finished his rookie season correct?

A rookie season where he was technically healthy but barely played a snap.
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Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Laviska Shenault, Julian Edelman, Diontae Johnson, John Brown, Keelan Cole, Darnell Mooney, Jalen Guyton, Travis Fulgham, Jakobi Meyers, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Richie James, Cam Sims, Dezmon Patmon
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K: Jason Sanders
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby flyersfan1981 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:47 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:31 am
i cant believe the level of hatred for this guy. idk i like to give 3 years to a top 10 nfl pick but hey maybe thats just me
Did you think he was worthy of a Top-10 pick? If you think he was then I agree you need to wait. But most of us thought it was an absurd reach.
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby Bucky15 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:23 am

I’ve never been a huge fan of Ross. I’d give Murray for him, but that’s about it.
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