thoughts on john ross?

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thoughts on john ross?

Postby hjernazian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:55 am

team that John Ross is pretty atrocious, he is looking to rebuild next year with two first rounders (one his, hence the incentive to tanking - no penalties for this in our league). Take a look at my sig, I've made multiple deals with this owner before, landing me D. Freeman and H. Henry (traded away), what package of players can I offer? I'm thinking maybe D. Murray, Ty Montg, OR Njoku straight up.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am

He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby hjernazian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:36 am

ThatGuyBrian wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.
where do you equate his value with the "IF" though? He can be had for relatively cheap imo, but what's cheap? I'm thinking a high 3rd rounder? Or for a D. Murray or James White?
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby RBlivesmatter » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:42 am

hjernazian wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:55 am team that John Ross is pretty atrocious, he is looking to rebuild next year with two first rounders (one his, hence the incentive to tanking - no penalties for this in our league). Take a look at my sig, I've made multiple deals with this owner before, landing me D. Freeman and H. Henry (traded away), what package of players can I offer? I'm thinking maybe D. Murray, Ty Montg, OR Njoku straight up.
Weren’t there reports they might make him into a CB?
Team1 est2017
10 team QB3WR2RBTE2FLX
QB- Rivers, Mariota, Jimmy G, Rosen
RB- Gurley, Hunt, Drake, Henry, Howard, RoJo, McKinnon, ware, Ajayi
WR- Cooks, Jarvis, Miller, Kirk, Shepard, Patrick
TE- Reed, Eifert, Gesicki, Herndon
2019: 2.6 2.7 3.1

Team2 est2018
8 team PPR - 2QB3WR3RBTE2FLX
QB- Wilson, Cousins, Rosen, Allen, Foles
RB- Melvin, Shady, Howard, D.Freeman, Edwards, Collins, Duke, Coleman, Gore, Hunt, ekeler
WR- MT, Tate, Fitz, Humphries, Doctson, Kirk, Agholor, Wilson, Washington
TE- Kelce , Trey, Henry
2019- 1.3 1.8 2.1 2.3 3.3 4.3

Team3 est.2019
12 team QB2WR2RBTE2FLX
QB- Arodg, Mitch, Ljax
RB- Chubb, Guice, Hunt, D.Freeman, Yeldon, Samuels
WR- Julio, Tate, Miller, Funchess, Washington, Reynolds, Patrick
TE- Kelce, Hooper
2019: 1.7 2.4 2.8 2.10

Team4 est.2019
12 team QB2WR2RBTE2FLXKDEF
QB-Arodg, Winston
RB- Conner, Ingram, Lamar, Rojo
WR- Nuk, Keenan, Baldwin, Tate, Crowder, Josh Gordon, Wilson
TE- Engram, Gesicki, Hurst
K-
DEF-
2019: 1.1 1.5

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby SpartyOn » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:17 am

The outlook for players that can't even get on the field is not good. I would prefer every player you named above over Ross.

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby ThatGuyBrian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:52 am

hjernazian wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:36 am
ThatGuyBrian wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:04 am He had a lot of hype coming out of Washington and he may not be able to live up to it. Give it time though he could pan out.
where do you equate his value with the "IF" though? He can be had for relatively cheap imo, but what's cheap? I'm thinking a high 3rd rounder? Or for a D. Murray or James White?
In a league I am in a guy just traded a late second for him. If I were trading from him I wouldn't give anything higher than a third for him.
Current Win Now!!:
Chester
10 team PPR (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 Kicker, 1 Def/St) 27 man roster limit:
Qb Josh Allen, Joe Burrow
RB Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffery, Dalvin Cook, Saquon Barkley, Jk Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Eno Benjamin
WR Cooper Kupp, Michael Thomas, Chris Godwin, Juju Smith-Shuster, Brandon Aiyuk, Calvin Ridley (S), Zay Jones, Lavishka Shenault, Terrace Marshall,
TE George Kittle, Darren Waller, Pat Freiermuth
K Justin Tucker
Def/St Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers

Possibly competitive team
QB: DeShaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Cj Stroud
RB: Breece Hall, Travis Etienne, JK Dobbins, JaVonte Williams, Latavius Murray, Gus Edwards, Kenny McIntosh
WR: Calvin Ridley, Jaylen Waddle, Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Garrett Wilson, Darnell Mooney, Romeo Doubs, Terrace Marshall, Justyn Ross, Kayshoun Boutte, Puka Nacka
TE: Kyle Pitts, Zach Ertz, Darren Waller, Tucker Kraft
K: Justin Tucker
D/St: Bills, Bucs

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby BeeziBad » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:06 am

you could trade any of those guys you mentioned for someone much better, who actually gets playing time. if you're stuck on ross, trade any of those guys strait but make sure to get a decent pick added. don't cheat yourself.
The Mega Powers - 12Team - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - 1PPR
QB - R. Tannehill, T. Bridgewater
RB - J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, C. Akers, Z. Moss, R. Jones, R. Armstead, M. Davis, C. Edmonds
WR - J. Jeudy, H. Ruggs, T. Higgins, L. Shenault, C. Claypool, J. Reagor, C. Davis, J. Washington, B. Aiyuk, Q. Cephus, KJ Hamler, A. Lazard
TE - C. Herndon, D. Sample
Picks - 2021 - 1, 1, 1

Jabroni Beaters - 10Team - 1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - NONPPR
QB - P. Mahomes B. Mayfield
RB - S. Barkley, E. Elliott, JK Dobbins, A. Peterson, M. Breida, D. Freeman
WR - T. Hill. AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Jefferson, J. Edelman, B. Aiyuk, L. Shenault, JJAW, B. Edwards
TE - Z. Ertz, H. Hurst, J. Smith

SuperSonics - 10Team - 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX/1K - .5 PPR
QB - S. Darnold, R. Tannehill, C. Newton
RB - E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Cook, R. Jones, A. Peterson
WR - T. Hill, O. Beckham, D. Metcalf, C. Davis, H. Renfrow, R. Cobb
TE - Z. Ertz, E. Engram, H. Henry, J. Smith, K. Rudolph
Picks - 2020 - 2.7
2021 - 2, 3

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby BradysBunch » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:13 am

There are players I just stay away from. Ross is one of them.
9(yes 9) team / 28 man rosters
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QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
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N. Harris/J. Williams/Gibbs/CEH/A. Jones/Hubbard/Haskins/Ingram
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby jman3134 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:38 am

Marvin Lewis is back again. Therefore John Toss.
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Qb: Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford, Trey Lance
Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Taysom Hill, Isaiah Likely
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby McCloskey22 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:30 am

I would equate John Ross to a piece of garbage you find on the side of the road
12 team league - 1/2 ppr, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (WR/RB/TE)


QB - Dak Prescott , Alex Smith, Sam Darnold
RB - Ezekiel Elliott , Carlos Hyde , James White, TY Montgomery, Ronald Jones
WR - Mike Evans , Davante Adams , Dez Bryant, Robby Anderson, Zay Jones, Courtland Sutton
TE - Hunter Henry, Tyler Eifert, Rico Gathers, RSJ

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby hjernazian » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:40 am

McCloskey22 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:30 am I would equate John Ross to a piece of garbage you find on the side of the road
lol, seems unanimous. I don't like Lewis and I like the Bengals overall even less. Just was thinking may be nice to land him for cheap, but there are other candidates for that.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby Goddard » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:45 pm

I definitely wouldn't move Njoku for him, but if you can get him for Murray and Monty, that would be a pretty solid deal.

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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby block2323 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:12 am

Ross is not someone I would be targeting...he's overrated imo just because he ran a fast 40 time. Wonder where I have seen that over blown before...
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Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1K, 1 Def

QB: T. Brady
RB: D. Johnson, N. Chubb, L. Fournette, C. Hyde, I. Smith, M. Davis
WR: OBJ, T. Hill, K. Allen, C. Kupp, D. Pettis, E. Sanders, D. Hamilton, R. Foster, J. Crowder, T. Patrick
TE: O. Howard, D. Goedert, C. Herndon
Def: Jax
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2019: 1.02, 2.01, 2.09, 3.02, 4.03, 4.05, 4.12
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby gunzwil guinea pigs » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:23 am

I would pay a late 2nd or I would give up demarco straight up
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QB: Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Mike White, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Breece Hall, Tony Pollard, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR: CeDee Lamb, Garrett Wilson, Stefon Diggs, Devonta Smith, Terry McLaurin, George Pickens, Calvin Ridley, Zay Flowers, Robert Woods, John Metchie, Marvin Mims
TE: Kyle Pitts, Irv Smith, Trey McBride
K: Tyler Bass
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Re: thoughts on john ross?

Postby skip » Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:29 pm

This is a very interesting thread as a year ago I felt I was one of the lone voices who felt Ross was extremely overrated and viewed his future solely as a special teams player.
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