Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

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Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby xNiCkBx » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:35 pm

I got a offer of a mid first round pick for my Josh Gordon....it was a easy accept for me...just want to double check with you all and get some feedback.

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Team 1: 12 Team PPR

QBs - Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott
RBS - Nick Chubb, Devin Singletary, Giovani Bernard, Justin Jackson, Darrell Henderson
WRs - DeAndre Hopkins, T.Y. Hilton, DJ Moore, Christian Kirk, Zach Pascal, Russell Gage, Antonio Brown
TEs - Hunter Henry, Mike Gesicki, Delanie Walker
DST - Buffalo
K - Will Lutz

Team 2: 12 Team PPR IDP

QBs - Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr, Dwayne Haskins
RBs - Ezekiel Elliot, James Conner, Devin Singletary, Benny Snell, Zack Moss, Anthony McFarland, Bryce Love
WRs - Odell Beckham Jr, Stefon Diggs, Tyler Locket, Tyrell Williams, Breshard Perriman, Kenny Stills
TEs - Rob Gronkowski, Tyler Higbee, T.J. Hockenson
K - Justin Tucker
DE - Chase Young, Josh Allen, JJ Watt
LB - Darius Leonard, Tremaine Edmunds, Eric Kendricks
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby gogobradyarm » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm

Probably 90% of people on here are going to say you just won the trade in a landslide. It all depends on the level of risk you want to take. A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career. Now those aren't great odds, but the odds of a drug abuser returning to their old ways is actually higher. With that said, i'm taking the bet on Gordon, knowing damn well that if he stays clean, he will easily be a top 24 talent.
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QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Daniel Jones
RB: Chubb, Cook, Aaron Jones, Dobbins, Akers, Kerryon, Mattison
WR: Nuk, Julio, Hill, Adams, Diggs, A.J. Brown, Jeudy, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Corey Davis, Sterling Shepard, Dante Pettis, Hakeem Butler
TE: Henry, Engram, Goedert, Njoku

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Dusticlez1 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:40 pm

Yeah, we cant expect the Gordon of Christmas past...nicely done! Id trade Gordon for any 1st and be happy....
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RB: Drake/Hyde/RoJo/Hines/McFarland
WR: Hopkins/Juju/Sutton/AJB/Lockett/Kirk/NKeal/Harry/Mims
TE: Kelce/Andrews/Rudolph

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RB: Nothing/
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby ravn88 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:45 pm

Damn..

Nicely done, who did you trade him to ? Josh Gordon himself :-)
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: M. Gordon, M. Ingram, J. Mixon, A. Jones & Jamaal W
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones K. Allen, M. Jones, J Crowder, Humpries & Moncrief
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 3RB 5WR 2TE 3FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup:

QB: Wentz, Goff Josh Allen & Lock
RB: Barkley Zeke K. Hunt McCoy Penny D. Williams & Ito
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow & Zay
TE: Engram OJ Howard Waller & Everett
DEF: Pats Jags & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Teddy Haskins
RB: CMC Zeke Miles AP Gaskins
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf Meyers
TE: Engram Ebron Herndon
DEF: Tampa

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby ESKAY » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:55 pm

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby flashgordon12 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:07 pm

Give me the Gordon side
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QB- Andrew Luck, Josh Allen
RB- MGIII, Mixon, Cohen, Devonta Freeman
WR- AB, Odell Beckham Jr., Josh Gordon, Tyler Boyd, Marqise Lee, Sutton, MVS
TE- Gronk, Higbee
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Suhmdog » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:32 pm

I have gordon and if pick isn't earlier than 8 I keep him. But I also like to gamble and I feel he is a gamble at this time

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Goddard » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:08 pm

Steal

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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby TB3falcons » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:29 pm

I turned down an offer of a late 1st in a 16 team league (basically an early 2nd in average leagues). Rather take the chance on Gordon than hope I land the next DJ with 30% odds at best.
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QB- Mahomes, Ryan
RB- Gordon, Ingram, Gore, Hyde, Ogunbowale
WR- Hopkins, KAllen, Lockett, Golladay, Fitz, Edelman, MJones, Cobb, Humphries, Conley, David Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Gordon :boohoo:
TE- Olsen, Ian Thomas, Njoku
PK- Butker
PN- Cooke
DT- CJones, Ogunjobi
DE- Hunter, DLaw, Quinn, Anderson, Turay
LB- Littleton, Mosley, D. Davis, Schobert, Bush, AJ Johnson, Walker, Evans, Burgess, Beckwith
CB- C Davis, Ward, Murphy-Bunting
S- JJ3, Walker, Williams, Rapp, Parks
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby HughHoney » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:56 am

gogobradyarm wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm
A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
Curious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?
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QB: Wilson, Minshew, Brissett
RB: Kamara, CEH, Gordon, Hines, Samuels, Gio, Love, C Edmonds
WR: OBJ, Kupp, Deebo Samuel, Reagor, Mike Williams, Mims, Watkins, Diontae Johnson, Devernay, Boykin, K Harmon, Pettis, Coutee, J Meyers, Peoples-Jones
TE: Kittle, Hurst
DEF: CAR
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Samhain34 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:21 am

Fair trade. Gordon has superstar potential but this is a deep draft. I'm not exactly in love with your WRs, so time will tell.
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1-2 QB 1-6 RB 1-6 WR 1-6 TE PPR 12-team 24 on roster 2 IR spots.

QB: C. Wentz, M. Ryan, B. Mayfield, N. Foles
RB: M. Gordon, T. Cohen, M. Walton, P. Barber, D. Thompson, I. Smith
WR: M. Thomas, K. Allen, C. Sutton, D. Slayton, A. Isabella, D. Westbrook, David Moore, A. Wilson, Auden Tate, J, Kumerow, G. Jennings
TE: N Fant, H. Henry, T. Higbee
IR: Preston Williams, C. Coleman
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby RB6 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:21 am

Easily the 1st.
HughHoney wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:56 am
gogobradyarm wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm
A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
Curious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?
This stat sounds completely made up.
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Watson, Wilson, Lock, Tua, Tannehill
MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Reagor, Shepard, Deebo, Pascal, S. Sims
Barkley, Ingram, Akers, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice
Andrews, Higbee, Jonnu

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LJax, Lock, Burrow, Ben, Foles, Eason, Rosen
Adams, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, MWill, Shepard, Sims, Hamler, Duvernay, Van, S. Miller, Proche, Reed, ESB
Zeke, Ingram, Mostert, Hunt, Pollard, Hines, Laird, C. Thompson, Calais
Andrews, Knox, Asiasi, Keene, Oliver

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, ARod, Goff, Mullens, Eason, Stick
LF, Singletary, Mack, Breida, Hines, Laird, Eno, D. Freeman, C. Thompson
MT, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, G. Tate, Crowder, Hamler, A. Tate, Pascal, Higgins, ESB
Andrews, Thomas

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Allen, Baker, Cam, Keenum
MT, Ridley, Lockett, Hardman, Miller, Shepard, Robby, Reynolds, Sims, CPatt
MG, Singletary, Guice, Cohen, Gibson, Scott, Rodney
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby Kramer » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:36 am

RB6 wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:21 am
Easily the 1st.
HughHoney wrote:
Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:56 am
gogobradyarm wrote:
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm
A mid 1st has a 40% chance of producing a top 24 season at least once in their career.
Curious where this stat came from. 40% chance for a mid 1st at their position? Overall? Feel like my hit rate with draft picks is way higher than this. I mean at least once in their career?
This stat sounds completely made up.
It sounds roughly correct to me based on historical data. Here's an article on it: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/7 ... raft-picks. They only look at the entire round in the article, so it's not a mid 1st specifically, but for the entire 1st round, the success rate (which is defined as a top 12 QB/TE season or a top 24 WR/RB season) is just less than 1 in 2.

As for the OP, I would take the 1st unless it was guaranteed to be late. As a Gordon owner myself, I want to at least see him on the field once before doing anything with him for any 2nd.
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QB: Winston,Dak,Dalton,Foles
RB: Fournette,Barkley,Mixon,Guice,Chubb,Foreman,Collins,Joe Williams,Yeldon,Scarborough
WR: Nuk,Davis,CoCo,JMatt,Doctson,Treadwell,Tyrell,Richardson
TE: Ertz,Eifert,Hooper,Everett,Shaheen,Burton,Butt

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QB: Rodgers,Wilson,Luck, Smith
RB: Fournette,McCoy,Mixon,Foreman,Martin,Powell,Conner,Collins
WR: Nuk,Hilton,Alshon,ARob,Davis,Tate,Gordon,MikeWilliams,Doctson,Kupp,Godwin
TE: Graham,Olsen,Henry,Howard,Everett,Kittle,Burton,Gathers
IDP: Bowmann,Burfict,Lee

28 team PPR SF, x2 copy, 0.2 PPC, 1.5PPR for TE - 1QB/1RB/1WR/1TE/5Flex/1SF (22+4IR+6Taxi)
QB: Wentz,Luck,Brissett
RB: Bell,Dixon,Gillislee,AP,Joe Williams,Perkins,Kelley
WR: Nuk,Hilton,ARob,Watkins,Decker
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby skip » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:27 pm

Historical success of picks in the top half of the first round are 50% so the number isn't far off at all. But frankly, I wouldn't give Gordon a percentage close to that high of success moving forward either. Any 1st round pick is worth more than Gordon.
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Re: Completed Trade: Josh Gordon for a 2018 1st

Postby block2323 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:35 pm

I personally would take Gordon here but I also think Gordon is going to be a solid WR moving forward. I would definitely be willing to take the risk of Gordon who we have seen perform in the NFL without a QB over an uncertain rookie pick. If you feel good about it that's all that matters.
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QB: T. Brady
RB: D. Johnson, N. Chubb, L. Fournette, C. Hyde, I. Smith, M. Davis
WR: OBJ, T. Hill, K. Allen, C. Kupp, D. Pettis, E. Sanders, D. Hamilton, R. Foster, J. Crowder, T. Patrick
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