Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

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Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby jojo5151 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:01 am

For team 1 in sig

Must win situation & my QB's a shaky Rivers post concussion or Cutler (meh).

Should I consider trading Watkins for A. Smith straight up? All other offers I've made involving Watkins have been turned down but Smith might be "getable" & he has a pretty good stretch schedule.

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1QB, 1-2RB, 3-4 WR 1 K 1 D
QB - Watson, Garoppolo
RB - Kamara, Jacobs, TY Johnson, Mattison
WR - M. Thomas, Thielen, Godwin, Julio,Tate, Gordon, P.Williams
TE- Waller
K- Zuerlein
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QB - Brees, Mahomes
RB- D. Cook, Coleman, DJ, Edmonds, Breida, , Bo Scarborough ,Mostart
WR- OBJ, Hilton, Jeffrey, Lockett, Tate, J. Washington
TE- Kittle, Andrews
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Rb - L. Bell, Guice, S.Michell,J.Jackson, Bernard
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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby BradysBunch » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:04 am

That is an overpay. Can you try picks? I gave up two 4th rds and Chad Williams for Smith 3 weeks ago.
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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby vixen » Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:58 am

you only show a roster of 17 players (and 3 of those are Defenses)..i can't believe that there is nobody on the ww to pick

i think it is also an overpay, if you think it will help you win $$ then go for it ....but i would ask for a pick to go with smith
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antonio, AJG/Erickson, thielen, allison, sutton, kirk, Hurd, JJAW, Slayton
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Herndon, Andrews, Fant
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also .1pt per return yd/.05 per attempt
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Cook/Latavius, Abdullah, White, Chubb, Sanders
Watkins, Lockett, Kupp, Jo Brown, Patterson, Funchess/Cain, Agholor, Kumerow, Callaway, Patterson, Hollywood, Hurd, Isabella
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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby Suhmdog » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:20 am

Absolutely Not, you can do better and if not thn it's not worth it

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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby Generic Username » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:10 am

PLEASE offer me your Watkins for my A Smith! I've been trying to move him in a rebuild and best offer I've gotten is M Lynch...in a rebuild!

I'm not gonna argue with any owner who's just "done" with Sammy; I own him a few places and can relate to needing now vs promises for tomorrow. But I wonder if he can't still pull a bit more return, like Cam or Russell? In the end, though, would easily see why making this specific move works for you

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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby smoppelpoppel » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:21 am

Nay, roll with Rivers. Too much for Smith.
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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby marshallsnextarrest » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:29 am

I know how it feels when you see a need but he would need to bring something else to the table besides Smith to do that deal. A solid wr prospect or first for me. Even then it could be tough.
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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby vbbish » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:31 am

Feels like a huge loss in value. Remember KC traded up to pick his replacement in the first round. How long before they hand it over.
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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby Goddard » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:02 pm

When I read the title, I was sure this was going to be for a 2QB league, and even then I wasn't sure which side I'd go with. In a 1QB league, Watkins is still worth much more than Smith.

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Re: Trade Watkins straight up for A. Smith?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:30 pm

I don't care how low you are on Sammy, this is a heck no to the extreme
TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Haskins, Lock, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/BELL, Gurley, D Washington, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, M Davis, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Hilton, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, Waller, Irv, Herndon, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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DARNOLD, Brissett, Rosen, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Edelman, R Anderson, A Tate, Coutee, G Ward
KITTLE, Ian Thomas, James O
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